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A long rave

A long rave

Edit Feb 2018: This thread has evolved into a chat thread, which is fine by me. In addition, I encourage other members to feel free to post their own 'long raves' in here too if wished. I will continue to post my own longer raves from time to time, as well as chat with friends along the way.

Original post from May 2016:

First of all, a (very) long post alert. Please don't feel obliged to read or respond. Mainly I am writing today to clear my own head of some things. So, here goes...

Last week, I managed to get to all planned appointments and activities every day of the week except Sunday. That only amounts to one, maximum two, per day, but was an improvement on previous weeks and months. I've made all planned appointments in a week before, but there have not been so many appointments in so many days consecutively. Many of you will know that, prior to about mid last year, I spent years very rarely leaving the flat. This was since the last of my breakdowns from paid employment in 2008 (one of so many similar breakdowns from paid working, though none as devastating in consequence as this last one). With each of these breakdowns, the recovery time got longer and longer. It's taken eight years to recover much at all this time around.

This week, so far, I've made none of my appointments or activities. In fact, I've not showered for days. Embarrassing to admit but maybe helpful to own up to it. As I write I'm still in what I wore to bed, as I was all day yesterday and the day before. The weird thing is that I don't feel that bad in my emotions, just crashed out physically and lacking almost all motivation except to use the computer. In other words, my mind and fingertips are alert and active, in fact nervy and overactive as usual, but the rest of me is crashed out. Perhaps I have entered what some people call a bipolar 'mixed state'. Whatever the terminology, this is where I am and I've been here so many times before.

The way I see it, there are a number of possible reasons for the way I am after last week:

  • inner conflict about how helpful my psychologist treatment is for me (saw her on Friday);
  • trying to further reduce my tobacco intake (the struggle seems disproportionately huge and exhausting);
  • needing recovery time from a big week (by my standards);
  • simply another manifestation of bipolar disorder in me.

Regarding the psychologist. She is young compared to me and I have the feeling that she may not grasp the full extent of my situation, partly through lack of life experience. Perhaps she may particularly lack an understanding of the various physical ailments that complicate things with me, some age-related (menopause, musculo-skeletal problems), one of them a chronic illness (crohns disease). She is treating me with some techniques from Dialectical Behavioural Therapy, something I honestly have never liked the sound of when I've read about it. The main 'homework' I have for this four week period is a sheet I am meant to fill out every night covering various things including tobacco use, coffee intake, isolating, unbalance eating, sleep patterns, lack of exercise. The sheet also includes sections monitoring mood every day. The problem I find is that monitoring and (by implication) tackling all these things at once is just overwhelming. I am significantly depressed after filling out the form because it seems to highlight all the ways I am failing rather than the ways I am succeeding. The psychologist has given me this sheet as homework once before and it had the same effect on me then. A full month long slump into depression is what followed. This sheet makes me feel very pressured to recover quickly from all of these things at once, a message that contradicts the advice of my psychiatrist (who I trust much more). His advice is to take it slowly and steadily and not feel rushed. As of yesterday, I stopped using the DBT form altogether. I am even considering giving up on the therapy with this psychologist after my next (sixth) session instead of seeing it through to the ten sessions my GP is willing to refer me for.

With the difficulty of further tobacco reduction, I am succeeding in reducing this a little more but the effort is gargantuan and seems to be sapping all the strength I have for making it out the door to my activities and appointments (or even to get dressed and showered). Writing here is just about the only thing that is distracting me from smoking again or thinking about it obsessively.

I've run out of steam on writing about it all now (a huge sigh of relief from any readers at this point).

I wonder if anyone else can make any sense of this.

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Good morning to everyone @Mazarita @TAB @Meowmy @BryanaCamp @Appleblossom @CheerBear @Adge @Alacarte @eth @Exoplanet @Zoe7 @outlander @Shaz51 happy Friday again! amazing how quickly it comes around. My mh nurse and pdoc want me to start having more regular hours when it comes to sleeping ..... I like my sleeping patterns but they are both insistant.. Just wondering what everyone else thinks? Should I give up my midnight hauntings of the forums and try and sleep like normal people and not like a ghost or a vampire? very interested to hear. Have a quiet day ahead and a busy weekend coming up so am looking forward to taking it a bit easy today.Hoping everyone has a super pea day ahead of them and look forward to catching up in real time a bit later on. Lots of love greenpeaxxx

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I know they say its best to sleep through and norms etc but I used so sleep best after being up late, well early, is there a problem with it for you or just for them ? did they explain why a pea should be in pod during non-daylight hours ? @Bunniekins I have work tomorrow morning., just aches etc, waking earlier and earlier last few nights been awake since midnight tonight anyways, will get through.

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@TAB ahhh they just want me to be as normal as possible and sleep with the rest of the nation when possible. I hope today goes okay for you re work. |Do you have this weekend to recoup?

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ok , I guess understand @Bunniekins yeah lots negativity from co workers ok casuals on first job, txtd office asking what I was doing next week, no reply, someone else asked supervisor who said dont know, no pay yet, keep telling people I was getting paid on wednesday oh I was always paid friday like I dont know what day it is grr

yes weekend off, and public holiday monday

thik am looking for work again, this company pretty busted and into us and them etc re long term workers, all on visas vs short term, rude supervisors etc see what happens. couldnt avoid it yest afternoon , brought me down

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going to try sleep again here @Bunniekins

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Good morning @Bunniekins Firstly, I wouldn't dream of telling you what you 'should' do ......... but I can speak from my own experience. I still am awake and out of bed at least 6 times almost every night. But my therapists encouraged me to stop doing any 'blue light' activities at night (phone or computer) as they said it's really stimulating, means being awake for longer between naps, and prevents a certain level of deeper sleep from happening. Also pDoc says a full sleep cycle is 1 1/2 hours (I thought it was 3). So I had thought I wasn't getting that level anyway as I almost never get more than 1 1/2 to 2 hours sleep in any block. So I gave it a try. And am still not doing those activities after 10 at night until at least 6 in the morning. And I have to say that even though my sleep is still very sporadic, I get back to sleep more easily and feel more refreshed in the morning most days than I used to. And need less day time napping. Back in the day when I was online for hours after the middle of the night I was napping morning and afternoon to compensate. And it seems now (20:20 hindsight) that I did have a lot more depression as well as more frequent hypomanias in those days. But of course another factor is medication regime which is quite different these days and one of those meds seems to have had the desired effect of reducing cPTSD flashback nightmares, so of course that helps enormously too.

That's my rave about sleep!

Hope today is a good one for you and all else who pass here today.

@Mazarita @Meowmy @Adge @Exoplanet @Zoe7 @Shaz51 @Appleblossom @CheerBear @outlander sending good vibes to all of you.

I'm around for a while this morning if anyone feels like yarning.

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Hi @Adge how's life going for you lately? Hope your wound is healed up nicely by now.

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@TAB sorry to hear that TAB was hoping this would be a great job for you ....take good care of yourself. greenpeaxx

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@eth Hi eth :D! thanks for you input re sleep. You are like the wise woman of the forum :). I am going out now but will be back on later if you are for a chat. I hope you have a good day my friend eth. xxxxLove always greenpea

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Thanks a lot @Bunniekins That's a pretty high compliment

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