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A long rave

A long rave

Edit Feb 2018: This thread has evolved into a chat thread, which is fine by me. In addition, I encourage other members to feel free to post their own 'long raves' in here too if wished. I will continue to post my own longer raves from time to time, as well as chat with friends along the way.

Original post from May 2016:

First of all, a (very) long post alert. Please don't feel obliged to read or respond. Mainly I am writing today to clear my own head of some things. So, here goes...

Last week, I managed to get to all planned appointments and activities every day of the week except Sunday. That only amounts to one, maximum two, per day, but was an improvement on previous weeks and months. I've made all planned appointments in a week before, but there have not been so many appointments in so many days consecutively. Many of you will know that, prior to about mid last year, I spent years very rarely leaving the flat. This was since the last of my breakdowns from paid employment in 2008 (one of so many similar breakdowns from paid working, though none as devastating in consequence as this last one). With each of these breakdowns, the recovery time got longer and longer. It's taken eight years to recover much at all this time around.

This week, so far, I've made none of my appointments or activities. In fact, I've not showered for days. Embarrassing to admit but maybe helpful to own up to it. As I write I'm still in what I wore to bed, as I was all day yesterday and the day before. The weird thing is that I don't feel that bad in my emotions, just crashed out physically and lacking almost all motivation except to use the computer. In other words, my mind and fingertips are alert and active, in fact nervy and overactive as usual, but the rest of me is crashed out. Perhaps I have entered what some people call a bipolar 'mixed state'. Whatever the terminology, this is where I am and I've been here so many times before.

The way I see it, there are a number of possible reasons for the way I am after last week:

  • inner conflict about how helpful my psychologist treatment is for me (saw her on Friday);
  • trying to further reduce my tobacco intake (the struggle seems disproportionately huge and exhausting);
  • needing recovery time from a big week (by my standards);
  • simply another manifestation of bipolar disorder in me.

Regarding the psychologist. She is young compared to me and I have the feeling that she may not grasp the full extent of my situation, partly through lack of life experience. Perhaps she may particularly lack an understanding of the various physical ailments that complicate things with me, some age-related (menopause, musculo-skeletal problems), one of them a chronic illness (crohns disease). She is treating me with some techniques from Dialectical Behavioural Therapy, something I honestly have never liked the sound of when I've read about it. The main 'homework' I have for this four week period is a sheet I am meant to fill out every night covering various things including tobacco use, coffee intake, isolating, unbalance eating, sleep patterns, lack of exercise. The sheet also includes sections monitoring mood every day. The problem I find is that monitoring and (by implication) tackling all these things at once is just overwhelming. I am significantly depressed after filling out the form because it seems to highlight all the ways I am failing rather than the ways I am succeeding. The psychologist has given me this sheet as homework once before and it had the same effect on me then. A full month long slump into depression is what followed. This sheet makes me feel very pressured to recover quickly from all of these things at once, a message that contradicts the advice of my psychiatrist (who I trust much more). His advice is to take it slowly and steadily and not feel rushed. As of yesterday, I stopped using the DBT form altogether. I am even considering giving up on the therapy with this psychologist after my next (sixth) session instead of seeing it through to the ten sessions my GP is willing to refer me for.

With the difficulty of further tobacco reduction, I am succeeding in reducing this a little more but the effort is gargantuan and seems to be sapping all the strength I have for making it out the door to my activities and appointments (or even to get dressed and showered). Writing here is just about the only thing that is distracting me from smoking again or thinking about it obsessively.

I've run out of steam on writing about it all now (a huge sigh of relief from any readers at this point).

I wonder if anyone else can make any sense of this.

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Goodnight @eth Sweet dreams to you too Hon

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Yes, I came close with a Gardening application (about 8 months ago) @Zoe7

I was 2nd choice at interview.

But I've been out of Hort for 7 years now.

Plus I'm not allowed to do any Heavy Lifting - because my Bowel surgeries damaged my abdominal muscles. So that rules out many of the positions.

People (clients) are not plants - they don't grow lovely flowers on themselves (either)....

Hi @eth I admire you for growing such a huge range of vegies, herbs & fruits.

Native shrubs, groundcovers, & trees are my forte.

Plus lots of exotics, because I'm not too picky.

It took me decades to build up my plant knowledge - yet only a few years (of not using it), to lose it.

That really upsets me.

Those pesky customers who used to ask me lots of very difficult gardening & plant questions (& were often rude) - were very good for motivating me to learn the answers.

No one has been asking me questions for years - so I've already forgotten a lot of it.

My plant identification skills used to be excellent - I would see most plants, & go "That's a...." I would know exactly what the species name (& common name) was.

Now I see a plant that I used to know very well - & think "I can't remember what that is"....

Adge

I'm a heritage (old world) Rose enthusiast, amongst other things.

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Hello Everyone 🙂

Miss you Mazy @Mazarita Not giving you a guilt trip, just adding my voice to the chorus of those who enjoy your soul & notice it's absence Hoping everything is whipping up a frenzy of creativity still 🙂 Love you

@eth I think your brave talking about grief. I've always felt grief & ending were taboo subjects - feelings & thoughts that could only be bottled up.

Love to all that need or want it

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Good morning all @Exoplanet @Mazarita @Adge @Zoe7 @Appleblossom @CheerBear @Bunniekins

Hoping you are off to a good start this morning and that today is a positive one without too much stress.

@Adge I am sure that your knowledge will return to you one of these days. I felt like that too about the knowledge I gained through studying and then practising massage therapy for over 25 years. But I recently massaged a family member (haven't done it for money for several years now) and a flood of information returned while I was doing it. I wish the same for you. Keep doing your gardening, visit nurseries, read about it - it will come back because you love it so. Even if just for your own use. I'm impressed already by your post telling your areas of expertise. I studied herbal and botanical medicine for a few years so I think I know how you feel.

Hope today is a better day if you're at work again.

@Exoplanet the forums are a good place for us to talk and share about matters that are hard to deal with irl. It's safe here. Hope that your opening up on the grief thread can be a good thing for you. And that writing that poem on the writing thread has helped you connect with deep feelings in a healthy way. You are brave too!

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Good morning everyone.

I hope you have a good day too @eth

Talking to people who like plants is always refreshing.

Plus Birds (being a keen bird-keeper), & nature...

I have a Hypnotherapy session this afternoon - he always wants me to "set the agenda".

I haven't got any agenda or goal in mind - I cannot think of any....

Adge

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Hey @Adge

I don't know what to suggest re an agenda for your hypnotherapy session. Sounds a bit tricky to me. Maybe focus on whatever you are struggling with the most at the moment. Is you anxiety about impending surgery appropriate? I've never had hypnotherapy, just always felt it wasn't for me, so I can't really advise on this. Hope it goes well for you anyway.

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@Adge It doesn't take us long to begin forgetting things when we are not using the names/terms for things everyday so I am not surprised you don't have the knowledge you used to have. I'm sure it wouldn't take long for you to build that knowledge up again.

It totally sucks that you are so limited to what you can and can't do physically - that would certainly affect the types of jobs you could apply for There is no harm in still looking occasionally though - the perfect job may fall at your feet and you may be able to get out of your present job. I know you hate the work you do and that is no way to try to get through each day

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Hi @eth @Exoplanet Had a good day again today but pleased to be home now with my fur babies. Hope your day was a good one

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Glad to see you after school Bella @Zoe7

@Adge Sorry to see you doing it so hard these last few months.

Hope the hynotherapy helps. I have never had it either. I guess it might be a protocol in the therapy to have consumer set agenda rather than service provider, given hynotism's potential for misuse ... if you know what I mean. Even if it feels useless. maybe at least put some of your values or struggles forward to give them something to work with.

@eth So glad to keep hearing from you.

I had a tough day; a bit teary and suicidal plans, but I also spoke to support worker and have safe plans too. My son has gone to gf and they are both coming back here tomorrow night. At least I am making the most of the house when I have it ... humpgh cleaning ... as I can get down the other end ... when he is not here. I will relax more tonight.

I had seen a 2 hour per week job that could have been perfect for me. Choir Leader for homeless and all inclusive. I started an application but have pulled back as I dont things will improve in the next few days and am really not well. The good thing is that I am even thinking of applying. At least I made a clear decision.

Boxes ticked even if triggered.

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You really should apply for it @Appleblossom You would be perfect for it Hon

Sorry to hear you are not doing so well though Apple - life really can get us down Hon Glad that you spoke to your support worker and have safety plans too. It is not east to get through those type of days but just take it an hour at a time. You have our support also if you need it

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