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A long rave

A long rave

Edit Feb 2018: This thread has evolved into a chat thread, which is fine by me. In addition, I encourage other members to feel free to post their own 'long raves' in here too if wished. I will continue to post my own longer raves from time to time, as well as chat with friends along the way.

Original post from May 2016:

First of all, a (very) long post alert. Please don't feel obliged to read or respond. Mainly I am writing today to clear my own head of some things. So, here goes...

Last week, I managed to get to all planned appointments and activities every day of the week except Sunday. That only amounts to one, maximum two, per day, but was an improvement on previous weeks and months. I've made all planned appointments in a week before, but there have not been so many appointments in so many days consecutively. Many of you will know that, prior to about mid last year, I spent years very rarely leaving the flat. This was since the last of my breakdowns from paid employment in 2008 (one of so many similar breakdowns from paid working, though none as devastating in consequence as this last one). With each of these breakdowns, the recovery time got longer and longer. It's taken eight years to recover much at all this time around.

This week, so far, I've made none of my appointments or activities. In fact, I've not showered for days. Embarrassing to admit but maybe helpful to own up to it. As I write I'm still in what I wore to bed, as I was all day yesterday and the day before. The weird thing is that I don't feel that bad in my emotions, just crashed out physically and lacking almost all motivation except to use the computer. In other words, my mind and fingertips are alert and active, in fact nervy and overactive as usual, but the rest of me is crashed out. Perhaps I have entered what some people call a bipolar 'mixed state'. Whatever the terminology, this is where I am and I've been here so many times before.

The way I see it, there are a number of possible reasons for the way I am after last week:

  • inner conflict about how helpful my psychologist treatment is for me (saw her on Friday);
  • trying to further reduce my tobacco intake (the struggle seems disproportionately huge and exhausting);
  • needing recovery time from a big week (by my standards);
  • simply another manifestation of bipolar disorder in me.

Regarding the psychologist. She is young compared to me and I have the feeling that she may not grasp the full extent of my situation, partly through lack of life experience. Perhaps she may particularly lack an understanding of the various physical ailments that complicate things with me, some age-related (menopause, musculo-skeletal problems), one of them a chronic illness (crohns disease). She is treating me with some techniques from Dialectical Behavioural Therapy, something I honestly have never liked the sound of when I've read about it. The main 'homework' I have for this four week period is a sheet I am meant to fill out every night covering various things including tobacco use, coffee intake, isolating, unbalance eating, sleep patterns, lack of exercise. The sheet also includes sections monitoring mood every day. The problem I find is that monitoring and (by implication) tackling all these things at once is just overwhelming. I am significantly depressed after filling out the form because it seems to highlight all the ways I am failing rather than the ways I am succeeding. The psychologist has given me this sheet as homework once before and it had the same effect on me then. A full month long slump into depression is what followed. This sheet makes me feel very pressured to recover quickly from all of these things at once, a message that contradicts the advice of my psychiatrist (who I trust much more). His advice is to take it slowly and steadily and not feel rushed. As of yesterday, I stopped using the DBT form altogether. I am even considering giving up on the therapy with this psychologist after my next (sixth) session instead of seeing it through to the ten sessions my GP is willing to refer me for.

With the difficulty of further tobacco reduction, I am succeeding in reducing this a little more but the effort is gargantuan and seems to be sapping all the strength I have for making it out the door to my activities and appointments (or even to get dressed and showered). Writing here is just about the only thing that is distracting me from smoking again or thinking about it obsessively.

I've run out of steam on writing about it all now (a huge sigh of relief from any readers at this point).

I wonder if anyone else can make any sense of this.

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So not together just now, @CheerBear, I missed your last post for 10 minutes, while waiting for it, lol.

Video related stuff overnight, more to do with getting my web pages in order at the start of the year, lots of obsessive fiddling with details. Happy with what I did. Not so happy with how I did it (no sleep).

Best wishes with the old med change routine. Hopefully the intial topsy turvies will subside and settle quickly.

Last night I stopped taking one third of my anti-depressant dose. Psychiatrist has told me to monitor and handle the up and down dosages as needed. We have already set the upper and lower limit. Hopefully the lower dose will start to bring me down from my overexcitability with creativity, and help me get some more sleep.

I'll save the news of last couple of days until next post, so you are not waiting for this one forever!

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Looking forward to reading about it when you post @Mazarita. Good to hear you have something to try with meds that might help with those excitability feelings (and maybe sleep!). My med increase wobbles should settle hopefully soon. I have GP next week if they don't or get too hard to manage 🙂

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Good to hear you are pretty much sorted, either way the meds affect you, @CheerBear. These transitional difficulties are part and parcel of taking meds in many instances.

The excitability feelings are addictive to me, especially since they relate to something I love: creativity. But self care is pretty much gone out the window. Not completely, but significantly down, which is not great because I've never really got it up to scratch in the first place.

Meanwhile I can see what's happening without feeling capable of much moderation. At least I've taken the positive step now of reducing the meds dose. That will almost certainly help. How long it takes to do that is not so clear. Hopefully sooner rather than later, though there's a part of me that doesn't want to let go of the creative high at all! I am a very productive artist at present.

New years eve and new years day were highly social by my standards (and C's standards too). He was a bit grumbly about it. I was really the one pushing for us to go. His 'grumbly' is very mild though, more like a bit of a sulk for a bit, then smiley faced before too long.

Spent time with friend and a group of others for fireworks on NYE, home late, asleep later. Then up again to head down in the morning to the country town to see other friends for new year's day. Long visit with them, maybe five hours (usually I keep social visits to 2-3). Got a bit weirded out in both situations, but felt overall good about being more social than I've been for years, at the turn of this year. All very nice people, they are.

Yesterday was a full day of obsession with video stuff, punctuated by chunks of two hours sleep. I will probably do something similar today.

How's yours shaping up to be?

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You do so well recognising and managing meds and your MH @Mazarita. It's always given me hope and encouragement to give it a go with meds myself, something I have really struggled to do. Totally understand the feeling of not wanting to let go of that creative flow and high part. As much as my excitability (supercharge) can take it out of me, it's also kind of productive and I like it more than flat and blegh. Balance hey? Always a tricky thing to find for me! 😉

Great to hear you had some socialising that felt good over the last couple of days. Interested in hearing about the weirded out, if you would like to and feel up to sharing.

Today is looking like a clean up and maybe a beach later day. The heat is apparently going to turn right up tomorrow, so I'd like to do the groceries and washing today ready to not need to do much tomorrow. I bought some bathers yesterday. First pair I've owned for many years as bathers shopping is right up there on my list of 'absolutely despise doing'. I dont know what it was that made me decide to do it yesterday but I picked up one pair, tried them on and they fit perfectly and felt great, and it was painlessly over in 5 minutes. I really like them as they're a one piece with a little skirt thingy attached at the bottom. Looking forward to playing in the water more comfortably now 🙂

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@CheerBear, I don't so much mind shopping in real shops when it takes about 5 minutes to do. Great good fortune that you found the bathers so fast. Mine too are one piece with a little skirt. Haven't used them all summer though. Struggle with body self image and that increases my social anxieties a great deal. Overcoming those obstacles seems to be a bigger challenge this year. Maybe to do with being one year older, one year less youthful, lol. Wish I didn't really care! Part of me doesn't much at all, part of me is still like the child whose ballet teacher told her she was too fat.

Doing some cleaning sounds okay for the good feeling afterwards. Shopping for groceries before the heat tomorrow, and the washing, good idea. Beach as a reward later sounds great.

The weirded out part of the socialising is just the usual for me: feelings of self-consciousness and unease in myself. Internally fighting off thoughts that I'm an idiot and people are seeing straight through me. Etc. Been struggling with this stuff ever since I can remember. Glad it's not actually stopping me from socialising though for now. There are always good parts. My wiser voice-in-my-head is also louder than it used to be, reminding me I'm with good people who like me, and that it's a good thing to spend time with other people even if I'm struggling to some extent.

Balance is a big challenge in general for me. It's so obvious how I've swung from 18 hours of sleep a day, and very little creativity or spirit to speak of for a few months not that long ago; and now to almost completely unable to stop myself from going 18 hours a day with creativity, on almost no sleep!

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Understanding those self-conscious feels with bathers @Mazarita. Like you, there's a part of me that doesn't care and another part that does. The care factor zero part of me is much stronger and louder than it used to be a couple of years ago which is great. Running with that one and actually going to the beach in bathers might be a challenge for it though!

Big hugs with that social anxiety. I feel a little sad thinking how hard on yourself that internal stuff is and how difficult it might make social situations. I can't imagine anyone thinking you're an idiot and seeing through you, and if anyone did I imagine wanting them to stick their head somewhere 😉. I like the saying 'those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind'. I've said that one to myself lots of times. It's great to hear you're able to remind yourself you're in good company and that you can challenge those anxieties and enjoy company.

It's been interesting to hear of (and watch to an extent) that swing for you over the last few months. It's given me more insight into the challenges you (and I imagine others who face similar struggles) experience and how you go about managing it. Hope you can find a more comfortable balance soon, especially with sleep and self-care.

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Thanks, @CheerBear.

Awesome with the care-factor-zero winning the race in you! In any case, I bet you look really good!

I think I'll sign off now and head towards bed. Though, as I'm saying that, I know there's something more I want to do on the computer before getting there (you guessed it, video related). I'm incorrigible!

May it be a satisfying and enjoyable day for you. Great to have a chat this morning, it's felt like good medicine. I've missed you lately, and others here too.

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I just learned a new word! Incorrigible! I dont think I've ever seen that one written. That's always a yay for me! (I still can't work out whether I like the word 'learnt' or 'learned' though 😉)

I hope your day works out to be one that is right for you. Love catching you in real time @Mazarita ❤

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Good morning @Mazarita @CheerBear and anyone else passing throug here today.

A bit of a sleep in for me after going to the movies last night and taking my meds all together later at night (usually 7 and 9 pm). Saw 'The Favourite' and recommend it.

No particular plans for me today. Hope it's going well for you all so far.

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@Mazarita Nope I was sleeping away in my pea pod 🙂 but wishing you and @eth@CheerBear@outlander and everyone a wonderful day. Lots of love greenpea xxxx

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