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A long rave

A long rave

Edit Feb 2018: This thread has evolved into a chat thread, which is fine by me. In addition, I encourage other members to feel free to post their own 'long raves' in here too if wished. I will continue to post my own longer raves from time to time, as well as chat with friends along the way.

Original post from May 2016:

First of all, a (very) long post alert. Please don't feel obliged to read or respond. Mainly I am writing today to clear my own head of some things. So, here goes...

Last week, I managed to get to all planned appointments and activities every day of the week except Sunday. That only amounts to one, maximum two, per day, but was an improvement on previous weeks and months. I've made all planned appointments in a week before, but there have not been so many appointments in so many days consecutively. Many of you will know that, prior to about mid last year, I spent years very rarely leaving the flat. This was since the last of my breakdowns from paid employment in 2008 (one of so many similar breakdowns from paid working, though none as devastating in consequence as this last one). With each of these breakdowns, the recovery time got longer and longer. It's taken eight years to recover much at all this time around.

This week, so far, I've made none of my appointments or activities. In fact, I've not showered for days. Embarrassing to admit but maybe helpful to own up to it. As I write I'm still in what I wore to bed, as I was all day yesterday and the day before. The weird thing is that I don't feel that bad in my emotions, just crashed out physically and lacking almost all motivation except to use the computer. In other words, my mind and fingertips are alert and active, in fact nervy and overactive as usual, but the rest of me is crashed out. Perhaps I have entered what some people call a bipolar 'mixed state'. Whatever the terminology, this is where I am and I've been here so many times before.

The way I see it, there are a number of possible reasons for the way I am after last week:

  • inner conflict about how helpful my psychologist treatment is for me (saw her on Friday);
  • trying to further reduce my tobacco intake (the struggle seems disproportionately huge and exhausting);
  • needing recovery time from a big week (by my standards);
  • simply another manifestation of bipolar disorder in me.

Regarding the psychologist. She is young compared to me and I have the feeling that she may not grasp the full extent of my situation, partly through lack of life experience. Perhaps she may particularly lack an understanding of the various physical ailments that complicate things with me, some age-related (menopause, musculo-skeletal problems), one of them a chronic illness (crohns disease). She is treating me with some techniques from Dialectical Behavioural Therapy, something I honestly have never liked the sound of when I've read about it. The main 'homework' I have for this four week period is a sheet I am meant to fill out every night covering various things including tobacco use, coffee intake, isolating, unbalance eating, sleep patterns, lack of exercise. The sheet also includes sections monitoring mood every day. The problem I find is that monitoring and (by implication) tackling all these things at once is just overwhelming. I am significantly depressed after filling out the form because it seems to highlight all the ways I am failing rather than the ways I am succeeding. The psychologist has given me this sheet as homework once before and it had the same effect on me then. A full month long slump into depression is what followed. This sheet makes me feel very pressured to recover quickly from all of these things at once, a message that contradicts the advice of my psychiatrist (who I trust much more). His advice is to take it slowly and steadily and not feel rushed. As of yesterday, I stopped using the DBT form altogether. I am even considering giving up on the therapy with this psychologist after my next (sixth) session instead of seeing it through to the ten sessions my GP is willing to refer me for.

With the difficulty of further tobacco reduction, I am succeeding in reducing this a little more but the effort is gargantuan and seems to be sapping all the strength I have for making it out the door to my activities and appointments (or even to get dressed and showered). Writing here is just about the only thing that is distracting me from smoking again or thinking about it obsessively.

I've run out of steam on writing about it all now (a huge sigh of relief from any readers at this point).

I wonder if anyone else can make any sense of this.

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Hi @eth and @Mazarita look at us early birds! 🙂 I am about to do some exercises so wont be on long just wanted to say hi and wish you both a great day. Loads of love greenpeaxxx

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Thanks @Mazarita and Hi @Bunniekins

Swooped by a bat outside and a very stiff neck @Mazarita. Glad to hear your vid work is progressing. Seems like having new projects back to back instead of falling into a slump between them is working for you.

You have a lovely day too @Bunniekins

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@Bunniekins! It's been ages since we bumped into each other. Good to see you this morning.

How good are you with the exercises! I've been slack with my physio lately. Hope I get back into it because they really do help.

Are you going for an early morning walk after the exercises?

Have a wonderful day.

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@eth, sorry about your sore neck. Do you have any cream that might help, such as Fisiocrem? I was putting that on mine last night, as happens many a night. I find it really helps quite a lot to relieve the pain. Come to think of it, from past conversations, I don't think you do have Fisiocrem, but may have some Arnica?

Yeah, the videos. I'm on a wild roll really. Getting so little sleep in an ongoing way now. Somewhat hypomanic, I'd say. Or at least feeling compulsive about it. But I guess it's better to have a creative outlet for that kind of energy, rather than it going off with it in less worthwhile directions.

Regarding that, my psychiatrist has left it to me to decide when I go up and down in dosage on the anti-depressants. After recent med changes, he suggested to me that raising and lowering the dose every few months or so, in response to my states of being, may be the ongoing way of things for me now. I'm feeling pretty sure at this point that I probably need to lower the AD dose again (I'm on quite a high dose at present). But I'm giving myself until New Year's Day on this current dose, and will decide on it then. Don't want to be going through meds changes over this end of year time.

Being swooped by a fruit bat, eh? I've never heard of them doing that. We have a lot of them up here. I like the way they fly through the night. Wouldn't be so keen if they started swooping though!

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@Mazarita It has been ages since we have spoken. I have to admit the weather here doesn't help it makes me very monosyllable lol :D. It is however cooler atm so I might go for a early morning walk EXCEPT just as I was going to get my coffee I could hear screaming in the street :o! Some man swearing so I might do something inside the house and wait till daylight before I venture forth.

Btw Mazzy you really have been a inspiration to the pea with everything that you have been doing with the judging and stuff. Maybe I will be inspired to get off my fat pea backside and try to do some kind of study again .... or maybe not. Anyway I think what you have done is terrific 🙂

@eth when the fruitbat swooped you did you scream!:o I would have.

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I resemble your remark about slackness re exercise lately @Mazarita. I have an exercise bike parked outside the front door of my cabin and haven't been on it for weeks. And I could be going for much longer walks with support workers. Tai chi has been my saving grace in recent times. It's not on the next couple of weeks and I'm going to miss it. Tell myself every day I must have discipline re the bike, but then the little voice on the other shoulder says 'I'll do it tomorrow'!

Just saw your next post. If you are hypomanic atm you're doing a brilliant job of channeling the energy into positive productive creative ventures. Great to hear your psychiatrist knows you and trusts you well enough to encourage you to manage your ad dose yourself.


Yes I've got arnica and have also taken some neurofen so hopefully the neck will be eased soon.

@Bunniekins no I didn't scream - have to be really quiet here at night. But my heart sure jumped into my throat and beat hard.

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@eth@Mazarita I remember at my old house there were a pair of Mopocks (not sure of the spelling) roosting outside in my garden. Such beautiful birds. It meant alot to me to see such gorgeous rare creatures up so close 🙂

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@Bunniekins, I imagine it's been really hot where you are, from what you are saying. I get how that might make you monosyllabic. It's been pretty warm and humid here too lately, though probably not as high temperatures as where you are, and perhaps you get a dryer heat. From memory, I don't think your house is airconditioned and maybe you don't have ceiling fans. Is it brick or weatherboard? I've lived in some terrible hot boxes in summer, and also some places that were like igloos in winter (when down south). Sympathies go out to you!

Relieved to hear you are going to play it safe after the screaming on the street. Not that long ago, I heard what really sounded like gunshots happening, a number of them going off over some minutes. Sounded like someone was wandering around the neighbourhood shooting it off to let off steam! I actually contacted the polic about it, but wasn't able to get through to them. Advice I've had since has suggested I should have rung 000. Will know better next time, though nothing bad seemed to have come of it. Was a pretty wild thing to hear just before dawn after a peaceful and still night!

Thanks about the videos. Would be great if the pea felt like doing something in the way of study. Support all the way from me.

@eth, haha, 'resemble your remark', gave me a giggle. At least you are doing the Tai Chi (and great that you are enjoying it). The only exercise I'm getting at the moment is walks between buses and home. I know that 'voice of tomorrow' very well!

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@Bunniekins I'd be waiting til daylight too if I was you.

Just doing some googling about mopokes and apparently it's another name for tawny frogmouth owls.

Picture titled 'Unimpressed Mopoke'!

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@Mazarita@eth You have a good memory I dont have air conditioning or ceiling fans so we jump from one little stand alone fan to another lol (I have one one right now). I live just north of Sydney. My mum says it is always hotter up here (more humid) or colder than where she lives in Sydney proper even though the weather forecast always says it is the same temperature.

o0o0o0o0o0o .... I can hear weird sounds coming from outside the back of our house :0... there is no way I am going outside in the dark now.

You and eth inspire me in many ways getting up in the morning and out the front door .... simple things like that. Today for example I have my pdoc and my psych both of which I am looking forward to.

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