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A long rave

A long rave

Edit Feb 2018: This thread has evolved into a chat thread, which is fine by me. In addition, I encourage other members to feel free to post their own 'long raves' in here too if wished. I will continue to post my own longer raves from time to time, as well as chat with friends along the way.

Original post from May 2016:

First of all, a (very) long post alert. Please don't feel obliged to read or respond. Mainly I am writing today to clear my own head of some things. So, here goes...

Last week, I managed to get to all planned appointments and activities every day of the week except Sunday. That only amounts to one, maximum two, per day, but was an improvement on previous weeks and months. I've made all planned appointments in a week before, but there have not been so many appointments in so many days consecutively. Many of you will know that, prior to about mid last year, I spent years very rarely leaving the flat. This was since the last of my breakdowns from paid employment in 2008 (one of so many similar breakdowns from paid working, though none as devastating in consequence as this last one). With each of these breakdowns, the recovery time got longer and longer. It's taken eight years to recover much at all this time around.

This week, so far, I've made none of my appointments or activities. In fact, I've not showered for days. Embarrassing to admit but maybe helpful to own up to it. As I write I'm still in what I wore to bed, as I was all day yesterday and the day before. The weird thing is that I don't feel that bad in my emotions, just crashed out physically and lacking almost all motivation except to use the computer. In other words, my mind and fingertips are alert and active, in fact nervy and overactive as usual, but the rest of me is crashed out. Perhaps I have entered what some people call a bipolar 'mixed state'. Whatever the terminology, this is where I am and I've been here so many times before.

The way I see it, there are a number of possible reasons for the way I am after last week:

  • inner conflict about how helpful my psychologist treatment is for me (saw her on Friday);
  • trying to further reduce my tobacco intake (the struggle seems disproportionately huge and exhausting);
  • needing recovery time from a big week (by my standards);
  • simply another manifestation of bipolar disorder in me.

Regarding the psychologist. She is young compared to me and I have the feeling that she may not grasp the full extent of my situation, partly through lack of life experience. Perhaps she may particularly lack an understanding of the various physical ailments that complicate things with me, some age-related (menopause, musculo-skeletal problems), one of them a chronic illness (crohns disease). She is treating me with some techniques from Dialectical Behavioural Therapy, something I honestly have never liked the sound of when I've read about it. The main 'homework' I have for this four week period is a sheet I am meant to fill out every night covering various things including tobacco use, coffee intake, isolating, unbalance eating, sleep patterns, lack of exercise. The sheet also includes sections monitoring mood every day. The problem I find is that monitoring and (by implication) tackling all these things at once is just overwhelming. I am significantly depressed after filling out the form because it seems to highlight all the ways I am failing rather than the ways I am succeeding. The psychologist has given me this sheet as homework once before and it had the same effect on me then. A full month long slump into depression is what followed. This sheet makes me feel very pressured to recover quickly from all of these things at once, a message that contradicts the advice of my psychiatrist (who I trust much more). His advice is to take it slowly and steadily and not feel rushed. As of yesterday, I stopped using the DBT form altogether. I am even considering giving up on the therapy with this psychologist after my next (sixth) session instead of seeing it through to the ten sessions my GP is willing to refer me for.

With the difficulty of further tobacco reduction, I am succeeding in reducing this a little more but the effort is gargantuan and seems to be sapping all the strength I have for making it out the door to my activities and appointments (or even to get dressed and showered). Writing here is just about the only thing that is distracting me from smoking again or thinking about it obsessively.

I've run out of steam on writing about it all now (a huge sigh of relief from any readers at this point).

I wonder if anyone else can make any sense of this.

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@outlander I've felt like that lots of times in the past. If I couldn't see my regular doctor or pdoc I would ring the CATT team at the hospital. A couple of times I did that first, then saw any GP I could get in to and had them ring the CATT team to ok a tweak or change of meds. Wondering if something like that is possible for you? We're here to support you too, of course.

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@outlander Yes I did. I felt completely out of control with my anger too at times just out of the blue anger (bp1). Remember how I danced for 4 hours non stop to rap music that was a mix of bp1 mood on a all time high and schizo cauz my voice told me too.

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Hello @Teej

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@Teej Hi Teej how are you going this evening? 🙂

@eth I take a purple pill for my moods my pdoc has recently upped it because I was feeling flat. I feel calmer now and more normal since she did that.

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The hospital team if rather not ring as id most likely get admitted and that woulnt suit me very much. I tried going to another gp once before and they said im better off seeing my regular gp so now i just try to hang on until i can get into see one of my regular supports. Ive not long done a med increase and they wont let me change/add anything until a the change is in my system so the 4 or 5 weeks each time. @eth


Yes i do remember that @Bunniekins ive not got a voice like yours though. Maybe if i had energy to dance for 4 hrs i would be able to work off some nerves lol.

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Hi @outlander

just following along. I’m not sure I have any advice. I think for me the high emotion crisis stuff is part of BPD. Not sure I have many answers because I still flip into states too. Sometimes they last days.

Ive heard good things about rav4s too

hi @Bunniekins, @eth, home again, home again jiggity jig ☺️.

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@Teej i didnt know you had BPD too..

They are very distressing esp when theres very little control or when coping strategies stop working. Ive contacted 2 helplines in the past few days but as soon as i start to get control my emotions go backwards again. 😔


How are you tonight?

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I’m ok @Bunniekins, maybe a little too reflective at the moment (makes me too intense and overthink everything) but my mood is ok. How about you?

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@outlander@Teej outlander would it help to visit FF tonight for a change? You too Teej 🙂

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Its to overwhelming for me @Bunniekins i often flick between threads though just quietly
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