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Is your Shadow Freudian or Jungian, JJ? I'm not familiar with either, I just now looked it up.

@JubileeJohnson I am very much been all about me these last few weeks.
I too know what your saying but you are making amazing insight for others ie like myself I hope that I can learn from others to be able to not make everything about me and be able to offer advice and support like you do

Hello, I enjoyed your email Jubilee....

I personally would not listen to what people are saying to you....overthink....too much.
Like you already know , can squash your creativity. life is hard...because there are people in it.... Take the criticism with a ....tablespoon of salt.

Lol

I remember my Dad telling me I'm too much once.....it was all so he could impress someone and he didn't want me speaking to them.
Be yourself. I always find the conversation of talking about the weather a good tension breaker....i
the weather always changes

batGuano,

I always think that Freud's observations are best remembered as that he was the Father of Psychoanalysis, A title that he would like. He had this group of friends who would meet at his house and I think he wrote to some other people as well. As soon as someone, in this group would say...but Sigmund....that doesn't ring true....he'de cut em out......Freud's teachings are seen as paternalistic,.....not loving and caring....(maternal)

but as long as the other Doctors/ intellectuals completely agree with what Freud was saying and writing, they were kept in the group. .......

.One book called, Civilization and it's Discontents,' writEs about about how an individual has these drives inside themselves, these urges called,
' The Death Drive,'
'The sex drive.'

then he writes that the individual has all this neurosis stuff mixing around. the meaning of being neurotic means ....
( I as a person knows it's my fault. Yes it is. )
Very deep stuff.

So, we run around with The sex drive in us....that urge to make more children, be creative.....produce life...
the death drive. ( you repeat trauma that has been happening in your life)
And being neurotic.

Freud is seen as paternalistic and not of our life now. in the 1920s (I thin....) his very limited teachings of infants were proved wrong by a psychotherist called Melanie Klein who tested and tested infants that 'proved,' him wrong...

.I'm just grabbing my book called Object Relations by Lavinia Gomez.....it's been read so much, it's all in little bits and pieces but I digress.......

As far as I remember... Freud focused on a person at the beginning of life ..that little individual baby Needed relationships. He writes the internal make up of the little individual baby having
a superego ( what makes me bad. I have swallowed this bad feeling about me from Mum and Dad which I will have for the rest of my life and then when older..... helps develop the death drive)
a consciousness
An unconsciousness
Which develops into the baby/ toddler turning older.... And developing.....
Oedipal complex.

Melanie Klein, after studying hundreds of babies, including her own,,,,,, writes that what Freud writes is out of sync of what really happens. She was more emotional and wrote that every infant is their own individual selves. these little individuals are not Living from these silly basic program's but their own world all from stemming from themselves.
then, when Melanie Klien published her findings, some Psychotherapists joined her and left Freud.
So, during/after the Second World two Psychotherapy Schools were formed called the Freudian School and the klienian school in England.

this isn't anything about Jung.

If I'm wrong, please correct. I've thrown all my notes away a few years ago. Ille write about Jung this afternoon.

Back to the book 'Civilization and it's Discontents.... a little smile when thinking this little memory of mine...... University students read ,' 'Civilization and it's Discontents,' They then usually yell out quotes to each other from whenever they are walking down the street or at the supermarket so they can sound clever.