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Topic Tuesday // Exploring Compassion Fatigue // Tues 26 Feb, 7pm AEDT

Topic Tuesday // Exploring Compassion Fatigue // Tues 26 Feb, 7pm AEDT

Supporting a family member or friend that has experienced adversity in their lives can be challenging at times. As carers, family and friends we often push through it and don't tend to think about how this impacts on our own mental health. At times supporting others can come up in the form of Compassion Fatigue. You may have never heard this term before or you may be well versed in what it means to experience this. Either way, it is going to be an informative and helpful session to learn more about compassion fatigue, signs to look out for and how you can manage them with special guest @Former-Member - Clinician and SANE Moderator

**This topic was edited from Vicarious Trauma to Compassion Fatigue. We realised that both of these subjects are equally important and sit closely along side each other. We wanted to get the most out of it so we decided to do them as seperate topics and will be doing Vicarious trauma at a later date.

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In response to: Topic Tuesday // Exploring Compassion Fatigue // Tues 26 Feb, 7pm AEDT

Re: Topic Tuesday // Exploring Compassion Fatigue // Tues 26 Feb, 7pm AEDT

It certainly is a lasting effect. I've been having counselling and she said it will take months to recover. He went into residential care a month before he died and the plan was to return to work but I find my brain is too fried to think clearly enough to take care of myself never mind get back to work mode after 5 years caring. It means going onto Newstart after carer payment, a big downward step but I know my health must now take priority..

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Exploring Compassion Fatigue // Tues 26 Feb, 7pm AEDT

Welcome @Live50 - wonderful to have you here to share your thoughts- welcome to the forums. It's also a big part of Topic Tuesdays to find shared experiences and understanding which is great to see happening.

@Adge thats a good question regarding finding that passion again - there will be a discussion point we cover soon around tips and strategies and @Former-Member will go into answering that then too 🙂

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Exploring Compassion Fatigue // Tues 26 Feb, 7pm AEDT

Hmm not sure if it is burnout or CF. The burnout sounds really familiar.

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Exploring Compassion Fatigue // Tues 26 Feb, 7pm AEDT

Me either @Live50. Maybe mine is burnout more than CF as that's sounding really familiar to me too.

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Exploring Compassion Fatigue // Tues 26 Feb, 7pm AEDT

Also hi and welcome @Faith-and-Hope - we saw your question and @Former-Member has it on her agenda for a discussion point shortly 🌸

In response to: Re: Topic Tuesday // Exploring Compassion Fatigue // Tues 26 Feb, 7pm AEDT

Re: Topic Tuesday // Exploring Compassion Fatigue // Tues 26 Feb, 7pm AEDT

Welcome @Live50. It sounds like this topic is resonating with you. I will post some information so which may make it clearer to distinguish between CF and burnout. Hopefully that helps

@CheerBear & @Smc the 'tuning out' that you are describing does sound to me like a self-protection strategy/response. Tuning out any information that we perceive in these moments as harmful to ourselves in any way is protective this can include anything from conversations with our family or friends to not tuning in to watch the news.

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Exploring Compassion Fatigue // Tues 26 Feb, 7pm AEDT

Experiencing compassion fatigue can make you more likely to experience burnout. It can be a bit of a slippery slope if you do not act when you notice the signs of CF and continue to put the needs of others before your own. Definitely something that is common when caring for others and sounds like something many of you can relate to!

Thanks so much everyone for sharing your insights, they have been really enlightening. Let's keep the insights coming as we move through to the next questions

The main difference between both of these experiences is how they develop. Compassion fatigue is as a result of using our empathy and compassion to care for others, while burnout is as a result of prolonged stress regardless of the nature of this stress.

As they sources of each experience are different, so too are some of the signs. For example, feeling an increased sense of cynicism and a negative view is unique to burnout, while the sense of disconnection that comes from a decreased ability to use compassion and empathy is unique to compassion fatigue.

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Exploring Compassion Fatigue // Tues 26 Feb, 7pm AEDT

One of my signs of CF is being cranky and irritable, such as shouting at a ringing phone saying "who else wants me to get up?"

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Exploring Compassion Fatigue // Tues 26 Feb, 7pm AEDT

@Former-Member, by that description I'd be more "compassion fatigue" than "burnout", but I think I'm probably experiencing both?
Is a bit hard to define what is a "negative view" and what is a realistic view? I'm someone whose default is to expect the best, and try to find something bright or funny, but at the same time there the hard thing of realising that our circumstances really are extraordinary, and not in a good way.

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Exploring Compassion Fatigue // Tues 26 Feb, 7pm AEDT

We have spoken a bit about what CF and burnout are and there have been some questions around how we can tell the difference between the 2 expereinces in terms of signs to be aware of. So to make it easy for you to identify the signs of these experiences, let’s take a look at the them a bit more. This summary of signs to look out for may be helpful and is something you can keep somewhere safe and refer back to throughout your time as carer.

Compassion fatigue signs:

  • Physical or emotional exhaustion (or both)
  • Reduced feelings of sympathy or empathy
  • Dreading carer tasks and caring for someone and feeling guilt about this
  • Feeling irritable, angry, or anxious
  • Headaches
  • Difficulty sleeping
  • Feeling disconnected
  • Withdrawing socially
  • Reduced sense of accomplishment or meaning in caregiving
  • Trouble making decisions

Burnout signs:

  • Physical exhaustion, where you feel tired most of the time and may even feel as though you are not able to complete tasks to the same standard you once did
  • Changes in appetite, either eating for comfort or losing your appetite all together
  • Changes in sleeping patterns
  • Frequent headaches and tension
  • Lowered immunity resulting in frequent sickness
  • Loss of motivation
  • Feeling helpless
  • Increased cynicism and negative view of current situation
  • Decreased satisfaction or sense of accomplishment
  • Feeling a sense of guilt or shame, or doubting your skills and ability to assist the person you care for
  • Social withdrawal
  • Procrastination
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