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I'm new to this but feel so alone & thus disconnected from the painful undercurrent of my mental health condition (anxiety depression, BPD, PTSD & complicated grief). What a trainwreck and the people left are critical i can't 'get a job' or stay in it longer than 6months before a meltdown (relapse), which of cause is viewed as choice (as if!). I'm so tired, for 3 decades I've picked myself up & fallen & got up & scared people away. Lately i've taken to try hide t h e scars on my arms with tape but it seems to draw attention to them. The mental illness fallout of disorganised home, emotional liability, super sensitivity, obesity, poor concentration, crap motivation etc are stigmatised & compounds the problem with crippling loneliness. Today i couldn't find a reason to get up (thank God for full bladders), spent the day flopping back in to bed fighting temptation to just take all those pills. But worse, i suddenly feel i could just lay here and will myself into an eternal sleep peacefully & naturally. Don't even know if i'm suicidal anymore or just damn tired.Found this chat forum & thought i could say all that, maybe get some tips without drama of ambulance trips, incarceration & or c uniformed police checks at my door. Anyway, look forward to hearing some of your stories how to survive, bye4now

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I don't know if I can offer much help at the moment, but I relate a lot, I can't get out of bed & although one part of me knows it's really really severe depression, another part of me thinks I'm just useless and lazy & can only imagine what others think of me right now. But I'm not enjoying being lazy, I'm doing what you say, wishing so much I could go to sleep & not wake up. I too have spent so many years picking myself up, fighting depression etc, only to have fallen so hard I don't think I can ever get back up this time and I don't have anything in me anymore to do it.

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Hi @Daisy and @Former-Member

Things seem like so much of battle that its at a point where it sounds like you're loosing the energy and movitation to keep trying.

Despite this, @Former-Member It's good to hear that you're looking for ways to get some motivation.

May I ask both of you if you've been in a similar space before, and what did you do to try and get out of it?

A suggestion I have is to start by setting yourself realistic goals. That might even be just having a shower and eating, and then gradually build up.

It might help making yourself accountable to someone. We got an exercise and goal thread. You don't need to exercise to participate. It's ok to just set goals and check in with each other. It's great little motivational thread with lots of support.

Importantly, if those thoughts start to get overwhelming, don't hesitate to seek support to keep yourself safe. They can be scarey thoughts, but remember you don't need to go through it alone.

Lifeline: 13 11 14 or Crisis Chat

Suicide call back service: 1300 659 467 or online counselling

Mensline 1300 789 978 (not sure if this is relevant)

If in immediate danger: 000

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Hi @Former-Member and @Daisy

Welcome to the forums, I'm really glad that you are here! I think that you will definitely get 'undramatic' support here @Former-Member and its so nice sometimes to hear from people who have been where you are, or are where you are and just 'get it'.

I think setting really small goals at first is important and cherishing them. Even if its having a shower tomorrow, or making a healthy sandwich for lunch. just small things that show you that you can keep going.

When my children were really little, I had a great GP who understood my particular situation and went above and beyond to make sure that we were ok. (she's since gone on to have 2 of her own children and isnt working - so happy for her but!!) Sad I know but appointments with her gave me something to almos reach towards, I can make it till i see ...... And now im very lucky again that i have a great psychologist who doesnt mind if i contact her between sessions.

Do you guys have someone that you can count on at times when things are really hard?

Welcome again,

look forward to 'seeing' you around the forums,

LJ

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Hi @Former-Member and @Daisy

Just wanted to check in to see how you're both going.

I hope things have improved.

Take care,

Nik

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Hi Daisy, apologies for delayed reply, hope you're still with us? Not given up & all. I'm a bit fearful of being pulled into someone elses whirlpool but think we both exp enough not to do that to each other. You sound really down at the moment. Do you find some days are much harder than others? sometimes 2,3 or more days running together? I force myself out of the bedroom between 9am & sunset after 2 days of depression as i know i just get worse there, even if its to watch tv or sit on veranda with a cuppa & book. The garden & prayer help You know, one thing i noticed in your post is how harsh you are with yourself, calling yourself "useless" & "lazy" Yes, some ignorant others see us that way, but why do it to ourself? You wouldn't say that to a close friend I hope, so why to yourself? I'm learning to be my own best friend & be a little more understanding more compassionate with me Well, its a work in progress. Anyway, since my last post i HAD to get up & shower for a dental apt so that got me out of the house, Today i actually caught up on the dishes & watered the garden. Doesn't sound like much to most i guess but Its good for me atm. How about u?

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Welcome to the forum. I'm fairly new here too. While we never can say we "understand” another person’s journey we seem to have some overlap of diagnoses at least (I have BPD, depression, anxiety and PTSD)

I just want to start by saying how awesome you are. That may sound like a strange response to what you wrote, but it’s true. I have struggled with my illness for 12 years and that feels like forever to me. I can’t imagine what it’s been like to deal with so much for over 30 years. So seriously you deserve credit for simply making it this far!

I know for me how discouraging it is when relapse seems to be inevitable after any good period but I want to believe there is hope. I’m currently well and I choose to believe that it is possible to stay well. There are days when I still wonder if it is hopeless and if it is worth the fight – but I choose to believe the answer is yes.

I know it’s clichéd but you’re not alone – I hope in this forum you find hope and encouragement in other people’s journeys. Having said that I know that online “friends” aren’t the same as those in real life. I’m sorry to hear that you are feeling so lonely and finding that people don’t understand.

It sounds like you are in a really hard place. I remember times when suicidal thoughts were overwhelming me and it was a scary time. I don’t remember what was worse – when people believed me and I experienced some of the stuff you talked about (“drama of ambulance trips, incarceration & or c uniformed police checks at my door”) or when people dismissed it as “attention seeking” or just part of BPD. It’s so hard when these thoughts are constant and relentless. But don’t let these attitudes put you off – seek help if you need it. I have firsthand experience of how horrible it can be but I also know that looking back I’m glad I never succeeded in ending my life.

In terms of practical advice I’m not sure what to say. I can tell you how important exercise, diet and sleep are for me. But you probably already know that 🙂 and I know how hard it can be to do those things when you feel like crap. But do what you can – and try not to beat yourself up for what you can’t.

I would also say for me how important it has been to get help from someone who specialises in BPD. And I would encourage you to do so if you haven’t already. I know from my experience that accessing services can be a HUGE battle. But it has been worth it. Get your name on a list for DBT, or find a therapist who does MBT or TFP or one of the other options (I’ve forgotten all the names…).

There are some resources online around DBT and a Yahoo Group that does peer based DBT modules. But personally I related better in the real world…

Don’t know how helpful I’ve been. I guess what I’m trying to say in a nutshell is – well done for getting this far, keep going no matter how hard it seems suicide is never the answer and make sure you’re getting good health because you’re worth it (despite what you think or anyone else says)

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Thanks Cherry... Good tips there, i have spent less time in bed this last two days but still get waves of suicidal impulses / thoughts that frighten me. Randomly, even while talking with a church friend today - but i would never tell. I feel safe in bed. Yes i have had two hospital admissions maj depression (parasuicides), bath after major loss 1986 & 2011. The system cut me loose quickly. I stopped seeing counsellor 3months ago, such a slow process & $45 gap (initial 120 on the day) is crazy on the breadline. They say i have ptsd, bpd, anxiety, depression, & complicated grief, & my personal addition would be the real killer - chronic loneliness. What a train-wreck, hey. Makes me suicidal just typing it all. The Hopelessness. I don’t find labels helpful. Helpful tips in counselling have been 'mindfulness' grounding exercises & self compassion. Concentration an issue but reading a helpful book atm by Russ Harris "Reality Slap" which has some practical easy exercises too.

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Thanks Ali, for going to the trouble of telling me all that. And congratulating me for getting this far down the track. Never thought of it in those terms or that knowing someone has survived that long might inspire others, wow,. Thanks for that. Well done to you too, its a hard journey but its ours to walk, but maybe not so alone 🙂 Bye4now

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Hi NikNik, i have done more, thanks for asking. Just replied in more detail to others if u want a read. But generally I'm more teary & sad, but hanging in there. Thanks. Was in the garden today.
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