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Support needed, support given ~ no religon or politics please...

Support needed, support given ~ no religon or politics please...

Hi all....

I reduced my antipsychotic dose on Monday night. My psychiatrist said I could when I saw her late last month. I waited a week & a bit as finances were extra stressful.... I had extra of my benzodiazpine last night. My psychiatrist approved an increase of the dose of benzodiazpine, but I haven't needed much extra yet. I slept half of today (unusual for me lately) & then my partner got me out of the cabin & to a cafe. So far I just feel slightly more anxious & a feeling of detachment. I asked my partner how I seemed & he said "despondent". Last year I reduced the antipsychotic dose twice: the first time I remember an increase in paranoia & anxiety plus irritability. The 2nd time I was extremely anxious & irritable. That happened in the first half of the year. In the 2nd half I was hospitalised twice for a total of 2 months. I had some psychotic symptoms (I did even on maximum dose), but the main issue was the antidepressant I had been taking since 2012 started to give me more frequent & disturbing vivid nightmares, which were often ptsd related. It is a common listed side effect of that medication to get vivid dreams. Therefore, I withdrew of that & tried the newest antidepressant on the market, but experienced persistent nausea. That meant that I had then tried all the newer generation antidepressants - some more than once. I tried a tricyclic, one of the newer generation again & a maoi. I decided to try a mood stabiliser I had been on before on a low dose. Now I am just on the mood stabiliser ~ no antidepressant. The dose is the typical dose for depression. It took about 4.5 months to feel like it was helping or "working" ~ although it may have been placebo effect, time & yoga practice that actually helped. Anyhow, I am back on track now to be able to reduce my medications. I found the psychiatrist who is helping me by googling "holistic psychiatrist" ~ my partner rang the practice & the receptionist suggested my doctor instead of the one I found online. From the beginning I made it clear that I wanted to reduce my medications. She has been mostly supportive, but at times has tried to increase dosages & wanted me to have ect. I have had to be assertive & determined ~ a hard ask at times when I have been extremely suicidal. I have read research that found long term use of antidepressants increases episodes of depression & long term use of antipsychotics increases episodes of psychosis. Also lots of research on benzodiazpines causing anxiety & depression plus addiction. The research is convincing & I'm tired of the side effects. I have now found a psychologist who specialises in cbt for psychosis. I feel if I can get through these difficult withdrawals I will be able to manage my mental illnesses & live more fully. My partner & even my psychiatrist have said I am more alive now.

This is my journey ~ I'm not trying to convince others to go off their medication... I just want support & people to know I'm not doing it because I am okay, but doing it to become more okay ~ if that makes sense...

Please talk about anything in here. I just need a thread without religon, which is triggering to me.

Namaste,

Anna

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Re: Support needed, support given ~ no religon or politics please...

Hi Lovely @Appleblossom....

Thank You for your thoughtful words as ever...

Still sad about kitten - Little Bop Hope he has joined my cats Biscuit & Papillon in a beautiful cat heaven....

I haven't heard about vitamin K - there is a resource nutritionfacts.org that I will look at later regarding vitamin K, but the doctors etc we follow say we must supplement with B12 - it is a bacteria that animals eat & therefore omnivores get easily. Due to the way fruit & vegetables are farmed & acquired these days we do not get it - Reminds me I need to buy some more. I only take it about 3 x a week.

I am concerned I am Vitamin D deficient as I have not been getting enough sunshine. I really would like to buy a nice reclined, cushioned chair to put outside the cabin to read or just lay on it. I have to see my GP for a mental health plan & I will ask for a Vitamin D test - She probably will insist on more tests just because I'm vegan, but it will be a waste of tax payers $$!

I don't really want to talk much about my so called "friend" today - I have realised she never really was a true genuine friend & only showed care through action when it was convenient - I offered several times to travel to her if she was unwell with suicidality - that is how my partner & me operate - I have done it for people - even ones I haven't met previously before - even when unwell - her words are still piecing my being everyday... I feel she must of thought those things about me long before she said them - This is what I would like to say about it today...

Merry Everthing & Happy Always,

Ahimsa - Namaste,

Anna

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Re: Support needed, support given ~ no religon or politics please...

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Re: Support needed, support given ~ no religon or politics please...

I feel like I failed people on xmas...

I feel like I was selfish for trying to protect myself.... that I needed to be more... put aside my ptsd, paranoia, anxieties or whatever label of any health professionals choice & give more for ONE day.... I don't feel enough...

I feel like I've failed my 'mother in law', 'sister in law', 'nephews', mum, big sis, nephew & nieces...

I'm so anxious I can't sleep.... I didn't get much sleep last night either...

I'm paranoid... I'm constantly fighting it....

It is hard to be in my head...

At least I didn't fail my partner & my kittens....

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Re: Support needed, support given ~ no religon or politics please...

@Former-Member

You didn't fail anyone, you did the best you could. I failed a large part of my family too today but I knew I couldn't do it. Maybe next year I will, maybe I won't but I have to hope that one year I'll be in a headspace to cope better. I wore much shame for not being the daughter with it all together and putting on a big family meal. I let my mum down, I couldn't manage to have a meal with her. I couldn't manage to get a present for my brother who I adore because it was too hard him being overseas (his lived OS for a few decades). Today my only goal was to stay safe and try to stay calm for my kids. I did that. @Former-Member Please take some pressure off yourself. You did the very best you could being unwell today and that is ok. One Christmas it might be different but you can only do the best you can in the moment. I am finally starting to understand a little self compassion. It is so hard to do. I hope you can find some for you too. 💜🤗

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Re: Support needed, support given ~ no religon or politics please...

Thank you @Former-Member....

I feel so sad...

I better go to sleep now, as partner is in bed & tomorrow I'm supposed to play happy families with my partner's family minus te alcoholic & go down to the coast & visit his uncle... I love the beach, but don't want to go...

I'm sorry you feel you failed too - we probably both didn't fail...

Thanks for your support today,

Night,

Ahimsa - Namaste,

Anna

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Re: Support needed, support given ~ no religon or politics please...

Hi all...

Driving home from coast... Beach was beautiful - 2 swims, sunshine, sound of waves, smell of ocean water & sand... Some moments of just being...

Not feeling okay now... Mother in law said insensitive remarks about my size when buying me dresses on xmas eve - I said I'm either that size or that size, so I need to try them on... She said "are you getting fat"... I said no, different brands I'm that size & others I'm that size... (i needed the smallest size) Then when food shopping talking about how much I love chocolate - again - "you will get fat"... Now, fitting everyone in car "Anna is smaller than me, but she won't be if I keep losing weight" She has said this stuff in the past, but now she has gone from a much bigger size to smaller... And my partner 'lectured' me about making a comment about my sister altering my clothes when I was anorexic after he pointed out a girl who looked anorexic & in child's clothes... Apparently I'm focusing on a very small part of my life & compared it to if he focused on his rsi (which by the way the lawyers got doctors saying it was psychosocial, because he has a schizophrenic partner) so, don't talk about it - even though mental illness has always been my life & people forget... And say stupid things... Not sure if I have talked about size in a round about neutral way.... Sorry, if not... Triggering these comments... Even my mum who has so little understanding of psychosis, suicidality, ptsd... Doesn't make these comments... She did give me Epsom salts from the safe once though... World is a harsh place for my sensitive soul... Well, I don't know if the mods will delete this & I wish I had someone to talk about it more specifically... When she has said things in past I feel my partner protects her... She doesn't think, that's just her... Oh well... More to stress about...

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Re: Support needed, support given ~ no religon or politics please...

Hi @Former-Member I'm glad the beach was beautiful. Sad that your mil was so insensitive with her comments. Definitely not helpful. and I get how you cant just 'turn off' the thoughts that come about them. Keep remembering that you are making a massive effort to be healthy. You eat beautiful nutritous food, and exercise appropriately. keep reminding yourself of your own truths. her comments are more about her than you.
take care,
lj

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Re: Support needed, support given ~ no religon or politics please...

Thanks lj @Former-Member....

Problem is I still often think I'm fat & it just makes it worse when people say these things apparently without thinking.... I can't even understand or psychoanalyse why she is saying it?! She said some things about herself & her body awhile ago & I told my partner & he said I told her not to talk to you about body image/size - I said I was concerned she might be getting into an eating disorder frame of mind, but he said "no, she is too old for that".... so I don't know... I know rationally I am not fat, but I constantly feel like people see me as bigger than I am with comments they make.... I try to restrict sometimes & my blood pressure gets really low - sometimes I faint - sometimes I have to lay on the floor for awhile - my body has been abused by the ED demons & too many overdoses to want to try to count... that it can't really take skipping a meal without complaining.... The bigger problem is that the real problem isn't even feeling fat or wanting to lose weight & I feel like I am getting absolutely nowhere in therapy with my psychologist....There is far too much trauma & not enough medicare funded sessions & health fund sessions.... every time I go I'm just trying to get over what happened in the last two weeks, or 3 weeks, or a month, or 2 months & we haven't got anywhere.... Anyhow...

How are you today lj? I was concerned & thinking about you yesterday xx

I'm so glad yesterday is over... it was hard enough being social with my partner's family today... (without the alcoholic it was 'safe') - one of my partner's sisters kids freaks me out - something about the way he looks at me & barely speaks.....

When do you see your kidlets again?

I read a quote today "I don't know if I am getting better or I am just getting used to the pain" - I am just getting used to the pain....

Namaste,

Anna

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Re: Support needed, support given ~ no religon or politics please...

Hello @Former-Member

Beach does sound lovely .. I am not well enough to do more outside today .. but I might drive down to the beach .. 15 min .. tomorrow .. thanks for the idea.

@Former-Member is probably right .. neither of you failed others for christmas .. you are both getting well educated in how to manage your traumas and simply not over extending.

Others who have done less work on emotional stuff or on themselves .. do not even realise how destructive theiir little bits of insenitiveness can be ..

I had a panic attack this morning .. trying to drive to a close local address .. just overwhelmed and emotionally exhausted and not planning well enough to bring address book .. I came home .. and collapsed after phoning in an apology ..

but the beautiful thing .. was she came around and picked me up drove me back to her place .. and said that I was loved and they did not want to miss me .. that is one of the most beautiful things that has happened in a long while ..

I am still very delicate .. my boy has gone for 2 days .. I need to meditate and recoup .. but wanted to come online and spend a little time with my forum friends

Thanks for being you.

@Former-Member and @Former-Member and @Zoe7 too.

Need to curl up and be calm like my cats

I am ok

Bye for now.

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Re: Support needed, support given ~ no religon or politics please...

It sounds really hard @Former-Member to sort through all those conflicting thoughts. 😞 But you are also really aware of your body's needs and the effects that skipping meals has on you. 😞 I'm not sure what to say except please don't skip meals. you really need your strength with everything else that is going on for you.

I feel the same with my psychology sessions, that we're only ever just coping with what ever recent punch has been thrown. scared that i'm actually worse. my psychologist wanted me to think about working on bad thoughts i have about myself (that she assumes are untrue), but every punch that gets thrown just seems to confirm what i think is right about me. i dont know know. i'm supposed to be going to work part time this year, which is going to mean really tightening up a lot and finding ways to save... its really hard as i have so much debt from setting up on my own with the kids, family court costs etc. and im not even sure i can cope iwth going back to work after this latest incident.

I'm glad that the alcoholic wasnt on this trip today so that it was at least bearable. I hope that you and your partner can have some down time together now and recoup from the 'festivities'.

Sorry i worried you,

lj

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