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Chest Pain and Anxiety

Chest Pain and Anxiety

Disclosure / Warning: always get checked out if you have chest pain.

Hello everyone. As some of you may know I have Major Depression. I also have Anxiety. Although mine is very mild and no longer requires any medication. Most of the time I can just breathe through my anxiety. Occassionally, I'll scream through it.

Lately, (past 6 months or more) I've been having high blood pressure readings, even though I'm on bp medication. I've been getting really worried about it, as I had a stroke one and a half years ago. And do not want a repeat of that experience. So my gp suggested that I go to my pharmacy daily and have my bp tested and to record it in a little book and to report back to her in 2 weeks.

So last Friday I had my bp tested at the pharmacy and it was 172/113. Not a great number at all. Then I started getting chest pains. Strong and persistent. I've had these before. For the past 12 months I tend to get chest pain when anxious. Nothing extraudinary about that. Because the lower reading was so high, I was worried about a possible stroke and Nurse On Call, rang a Doctors service who called me back and said to phone an ambulance and go to the Emergency Department.

So I spent Friday night and Saturday morning in the ED. All clear. No heart attack, which is what they were worried about. Today I had a stress Echocardiogram. All clear.

I went to the doctors and this time I saw another gp. As I wasn't happy that the old gp was not changing my blood pressure medicine. After chatting to the new gp for about 10 minutes she slips the bp cuff on my arm and continues chatting with me while she takes my bp. Perfect bp. 123/83. Very good for me. Wow. I couldn't believe my bp was that low. It's normally in the high 150's to 180's. Then she explained to me that I have what is called, 'White Coat Syndrome'. Apparently my bp goes up as soon as I'm aware my bp is being taken. So she took it again. And it had risen by 20 points. Took it a third time and I was in the 150's again.

I can't understand why this happens. As I feel really calm and relaxed when I'm geting my bp checked. I don't feel anxious at all. That's when this wonderful gp explained to me, what no one has bothered to tell me in the past 4 years since diagnosis.

Beause I have anxiety (as a diagnosis), I am extremely sensitive to stress, to worries and every day life events. She explained when I walked in and she said 'How are you'. I responded with 'good'. But in my mind my head is full of worries, often times I'm not even aware of them.

So just like I am chemically sensitive to perfumes and chemicals, my mind and body is very sensitive to worries. I never really realized this. As it's now very rare for me to have panic attacks or anxiety attacks.

So while I am smiling and saying everything is 'good'. My mind is silently screaming in the background. And I didn't even know. I really thought anxiety was when I was having an attack or when I can't make my brain shut up from obsessing over things.

No! It can be far more subtle than that. And that's why I've never understood why the hospital and the doctors have told me that my chest pain is due to my anxiety and not to any heart conditions.

Did other people know this?

Is it because I have gotten really good at not thinking about my worries? Because I do anything I can to avoid thinking about them? I tend to try distraction, rather than 'sitting with the feeling'

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@utopia I read on your other thread yesterday about HSP. I went onto a site a answered a quiz. I ticked every box. That amazed me. I've been talking to my counsellor about empathy, I really interesting topic and not a lot of info. I might be off topic here, but in my mind I'm trying to get out what I mean. Medically we respond differently. We feel things differently, more intense. That's not saying it's in our minds, sensitivity is high. I hope this makes a bit of sense to you.

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It does make sense @Maggie. Since coming to this site 2 years ago, I have noticed a common pattern in a lot of the members. They have high empathy, high compassion and sensitivities.
I wonder if this is part of having a MI or if those of us who are more sensitive that the general population, are more likely to develop a MI.
I find this a really interesting concept.
If it is that sensitive people are more likely to develop a MI, then maybe more needs to be done in our schools, our homes and our businesses to reduce stress and be more accommodating and aware of people with sensitivities. Imagine how much nicer and less stressful it would be to go to CentreLink.
Wouldn't that be a wonderful world.

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Yes @utopia what a difference it would make. Learning, doing, working. The discussions I'm having with my counsellor are very interesting about empathy. She discribed it as coming from a higher level of comprehension. I read a little yesterday, some say it's learned. Not in my background. Others say it's in our genes. I don't have much family history. I just find it intriguing as I know someone with no empathy whatsoever. That was how our discussions started as I had no idea how people could be like that. Also the creativity side of things predisposes us to sensitivity. I might need to shut up, I'm on a roll. Off to do some more reading. Good chatting. Thanks.🙃🙃

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Some great discussions with your therapist @Maggie. Very interesting why some people have so much empathy and some have none.

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Hey @utopia

I like this thread, though not the consequences ... of pounding heart rates ...

I had a very good doctor about 10 years ago and he treated me as if he presumed I had White Coat Syndrome, that is very gently and quetly explaining his actions, reasons, and medical procedures. He did put me on bp meds which I took for about 7 years. I am now off them and the underlying extreme anxiety is at the front of my current treatment. I believe that the meds helped keep me in some quieter level until I I gained increased level of support personally. My bp readings are high normal now so they are fine I am not taking those meds, but the other meds are increasing. My psychologists know that there role is about containing the stress and they try.

Personally I had to go through the issues of understanding what a raised heart rate re ... cardio at gym was about ... as before seeing this doctor I had been at gym for about 7 years for back and neck issues ... its been a long story. It is also why I know that my cure is not just about walking or more exercise ... its more subtle than that.

I will always be grateful for that male doctor's awareness and intelligent management of my health, beyond obvious, screaming out loud symptoms. He also saw my son, but had become sick and was not practising when I joined this forum. I felt totally isolated.

Love your humour @Owlunar

Hey @BlueBay @Maggie

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Hi @Appleblossom xxoo

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It's so good when we find a good doctor who explains things to us clearly but without treating us like we are idiots (I've met some not so nice doctors) @Appleblossom.
I am now starting to be aware that when I read about mental health and other issues that are not so positive, I can feel my chest pain start to kick in. Even thinking about anxiety creates this pain. But I think it's good. Now I'm more aware, I might be able to reduce the severity of the pain or reduce my anxiety. That's the aim.
Why are you feeling so isolated today? Is it today in particular?

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@utopia I wrote "felt" past tense. I am alright just low level and quiet after a few prn yesterday.

Yes it makes all the difference the quality of gp and from there on ...

A friend of mine talks about the "fire in the belly" which can motivate us to action. I think of that as a lower chakra ... chest is heart chakra ... chakras are about different energy centres in the body ...

I guess you are identifying with the plight of others as you have experienced similar.

Love

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@utopia I wrote "felt" past tense. I am alright ... just low level and needing quiet after a few prn yesterday.

Yes it makes all the difference the quality of gp and from there on ...

A friend of mine talks about the "fire in the belly" which can motivate us to take action. I think of that as a lower chakra ... chest is heart chakra ... chakras are different energy centres in the body ...

I guess you are identifying with the plight of others as you have experienced similar.

Love

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Hi @Appleblossom@utopia@Maggie@Former-Member

I'm so glad you like my humour Apple - and I am sick of winter already this year and it's only 31st of May - not a good start

I like what you wrote about BP medication and under-anxiety and so glad you got off them - there is hope for me yet though I am taking a something more appropriate now after being ill for weeks on the wrong one

It took me a while to get my head around chronic pain and anxiety causing high BP still needs treatment - seeing as taking less for the pain means the pain is worse - strange idea some people in the medical profession have about the pain getting worse if we take less pain medication when the cause of the pain itself has never been treated - like I ask - how can the tablets make the pain worse? btw -rhetorical questions but the pain increases BP as does stress and it seems your psychologist has treated the stress successfully - I am glad of that for your sake

But I am not seeing anyone about stress and anxiety right now and wonder if there is any help to be had there if I start with pyschologist number 5 - long story - it's not as if I set out to ch op and change but the last one and her fee for non-attendance meant I have managed to successfully avoid the fee but now I don't have a therapist - and all of that was stressful

Is it possible to live a life without all this stress - I really don't think so

So - the first BP medication caused all sorts of symptoms like fatique, dizziness, lack of appetite but it wasn't until my feet swelled up and my socks caused deep grooves in my ankles and my shoes felt uncomfortable that my dose was cut in half and I am on a different kind of medication that I worked out I had pressure in my head causing so much confusion - now I am okay and I can go out and walk around the streets and build up my health again

What a relief

I am soooooooooo glad you are off the BP medication and now I feel like taking my daily walk

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