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Clubs, organisations and limits of MI sufferers

Clubs, organisations and limits of MI sufferers

Hi everyone. My first post here.

Do you ever feel like you are left out of the "mix"? In a club do you feel like you are on the edge of the group? Not intentionally ostracized but, well, not popular?

I once was in one of many car clubs. My vintage Ford was in poor shape and my first wife and I didnt have the funds to restore it at the time. It was painted a non original colour so it was referred by others in the club as "the bitza".

I soon learned that clubs have a pecking order. Convertible car owners were the elite, rare cars the same. But more importantly I began to study why I was "on the outer", a situation not unlike my school days.

I found there were four main reasons for me finding myself on the rim of a group-

- sensitivity

- lack of confidence

- Self preservation

- oddity/quirkiness/essentricity

You might have other reasons.

When someone is sensitive one eventually tries to avoid controversy. Controversy creates anxiety as debate follows.

Lack of confidence could be from not being familiar with the core club commonality. Eg the car in question. It can also be a reflection of ones overall level of shyness

Oddity? Well we are odd, no doubting that. We often clearly have extreme thought patterns and behaviour. To survive in a group in the early stages one has to blend and be quieter than later on. Long term members can easily judge you as being a new interference. Sad but true and likely normal as they battle with protecting their group chemistry.

So is this all bad news- no way. There is a positive in every situation if you are proactive looking for it. In the case above, following several club experiences, they are all the same. Being on the rim of the group has its safety factor. Observe, learn and befriend others slowly. Ooze out your knowledge slowly. I'd also recommend not becoming a committee member. If you are like me and have strong reactions (thin skin), and not to forget strong views that you find difficult to do the blending required, then committees will find you in the eye of storms. Each time I've entered the field of committees it's ended with the same awful result- hurt. And dont expect the leaders to protect you from bullying (online common now) if your illness is known. Good strong moral leaders arent that common. It's more ocmmon for them to take the easy safe path and downplay the problem.

In summary, clubs and groups have a pecking order that we, the emotional, sensitive and reactive might better serve on the grandstand. Serious mental health issues can evolve when embroiled in conflict. Club commrades are not usually close understanding friends that will come to your aid even when and if your distress leads to depression. Better to let the steam out on a forum such as this.

A fellow in a footy club was always turning over the snags on the bbq every Thursday night training. He had bipolar and depression like myself. "Yep, been doing this for 12 years mate, out of the politics, doing my bit and I'm appreciated....and I get an extra sausage and double the onions...."

Tony WK

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Lol sweet!

We just returned from a trip around western Victoria with our JBA and home built caravan. We are moving once we sell our country home and we'll be on the road for 5 month while they build our new home. Exciting.
WK

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@Former-Member

thats our rig. The pic was taken in Queensland last year. And that the caravan I built. It is only 11' long and has shower and toilet!!

WK

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@Whiteknight - what a beauty. And wow the caravan is amazing, but tiny for whats in it. My dad has a 4 bay shed full of vintage and veteran cars including a 1926 Rugby, 1937 Oldsmobile 1932 Chev. I like 20s and 30s with the running boards.

Sherry 😊

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@Whiteknight. What are your thoughts about certain 'groups' dominating Clubs and Forums? For example another forum I notice has recently become dominated by a certain perceived 'minority group', almost the the exclusion of everyone else. Do you think this is right? I have nothing against any minority group and am very tolerant of all and sundry. But I do have an objection to any one group being permitted to be more important than everyone else. I think Clubs and Forums are meant to be for everyone, not just a minority few. And if you see domination by any one 'sector' within a club or forum, what should you do - cut and run, or stay and try to make things better for all? I'm interested in your thoughts Tony WK. Perhaps I'm just being my usual non 'sweet' but still bitter Sherry?

Sherry

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I think cliques are annoying but natural. When a few members find that "chemistry" its hard the break through.

We should feel happy for them and put our feelings aside. If we found a connection with others and found support we'd be delighted.

Some with MI find support on a forum they cant find face to face. This is another reason for empathy for those that connect on a forum

Members in cliques have no intent on hurting others. My thoughts are, if you find it a problem, to find those members that connect with you and not try to join the others. Let them go.

WK 🙂

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what a beauty. And wow the caravan is amazing, @Whiteknight

My husband had bipolar 11 and SAD, Inherited depression

how is your day going ? we are having a total rest day here as my husband`s anxiety has gone through the roof this week

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Hi @Shaz51

Having a good day myself.

I find that although Ive conquer severe anxiety, slight anxiety likely like excitement with feeling nervous is and always will be ptesent but it within livable range.

My bipolar11 is a different story. It remains my most difficult illness to cope with. I also have dysthymia and depression on top of the depressive episodes bipolar brings.

Our vintage looking car is my toy and caravanning is our passion. Without those I'd be lost. Finding a quiet caravan free camp in regional areas where you relax, bbq and go for walks has a magic to it.

Funny I read on facebook
They had a tent and the caption "Australia, where you go out of your way to spend your holidays as a homeless person"

WK
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