rough time

afternoon @Owlunar

sometimes waiting and coping the best we can is all thats possible isnt it. yes i agreee! holidays are the worst!! im dreading the 2 week school holiday period coming up soon as itll be very similar to the last ones ive had. but will deal with those when i get there. for now its take it day by day, cope/float whatever and sort out my hand/arm for now.

ive been reading of your pain too, dreadful isnt it! have you been able to have any more treatment after your surgury for your knees? is there anything they could do for you back in the ways of treatment at all?

Ah - here's the bubble wrap @outlander

I think my knees are a little better since I have been using the knee braces and alas no - there is nothing they can do about my spine except for me to be careful and regular with my medication

The changes in season are my favourite times of year but I can feel more pain then but I will be okay

Two weeks of holidays - when do they start? I read that you injured your hand in some way - I am sorry to hear that - and yes - there are times when we float through the days

School holidays though - as I went back into the world of study and work I would them pretty inconvenient - university holidays did not co-incide with school holidays and this was often a nuisance but I felt my kids were old enough to spend time with friends or even at home there by themselves for a couple of hours there and work was something I could move around when they were young but yes -

Two weeks constant baby-sitting every few weeks has to be a pain - aw -

Also back then - I am sure the school holidays were shorter and less - now it seems that the kids are hardly ever in school - I guess you feel like that too

Dec

did the surgury help with your knees? @Owlunar the one you had a little while back?

bugger about your spine, i think thats one thing i wish the meds could help out more with. it seems once its damaged theres not a great deal they can do besides surgury or pain management stuff.

yep i did hurt my hand, its on the page back if your interested...

holidays start in about 2 weeks time im pretty sure, its the 2 weeks one. when i was in school it seemed the holidays couldnt come quick enough but now your right it seems they arent in school enough. the holidays are ok when we go away for a few days but with so much happening we didnt go last yr and i dont think we will this year either. none of us can afford it atm with mum moving houses and new bills etc. they havent even been moved out for 6 months yet so still lots of chnges and adjusting.

Hi @outlander

The operation on my right knee helped a lot and had fixed itself post-surgically - but I think other events stressed both knees and I feel this is part of getting older and hope getting up and down less and time and the knee braces - thermo skin - work - I know all the other stuff repaired itself in time and hopefully this will too - I could take anti-inflamatories but I am allergic to them

Your family had a lot of changes last year - and now they have to pay their way like everyone else - but your Mum has a free baby sitter - that is cheaper than child-care for the little sister - my daughter was looking after herself at 14 - so your Mum is pretty lucky with you there to pick up the slack - which is a different way of looking at things

I loved going to school - it was an easy way to get away from home where it was really over-crowded with no privacy - now the kids have breaks all the time - there are a few kids around here but during the school terms there are thousands of kids all over the place when school gets out but the kids at the Secondary College are very polite

But I am wondering if the kids would be better at school a bit more and have less homework but although I know that idea has been suggested in Victoria I don't think it would be popular

Still - I really liked school - I didn't stop when I had to go to work either - night school was hard work but I think it was brilliant - not everyone would like that either

One day at a time Outlander - your mother as a jewell in you could she but acknowledge that - it would help a lot I reckon

Dec

thats really good the op helped @Owlunar hopefully not too many more of those in the furture hey. cant stop aging unfortunatly, poor joints as they wear down. pretty painful things.

i cant take anti-infalmmatories either, even though they do help quite alot with the pain.

i loved going to school sometimes it was more when the bullying started i hated it and avoided it. but i got through ok, if it wasnt for 2 specific teachers im not sure i wouldve made it through all that well at all. i mightve ended up dropping out but in a way it was a good escape from home too. works both ways i guess.

thank you Dec

Bullying at school is so bad @outlander - I am glad you had those two teachers and they got you through - aw - I hate bullying

My younger sibs gave me a hard time but I didn't react - my mother was pretty harsh - so what could a school teacher do?- I remember it was harder at home than at school and I was respected as years went past

I don't understand why kids and teachers have to bully anyone - I was not middle-of-the-road - back after the war things were different - bright kids and backward kids had the same problem - we didn't get time from the teachers because they tended to the majority.

There were 60 kids in my class when I was in Grade 6 - imagine that today

Rearlly - I think kids who bully are unsure and stick with the crowd because they do not want to be seen as different - it has to be rough if people don't have parents who care - my father cared and my grandparents cared and this made a huge difference

I am sorry you were bullied - I read you are a very sensitive person and this works against you because you do care - I know you still suffer from it - perhaps I stand alone now because I found that better - but it is never easy to be different - it is never easy to stand alone. Some people would rather bully than stand alone - life can be hard for many different kinds of people - and I am sorry you have been so hurt

Dec

thank god for those 2 teachers @Owlunar but they didnt come along till yr 10 after id moved schools for the third time. yes the bullying i ahd was bad and no one knows about it tbh. i was beaten up after a stupid rumour that i didnt even start but because i didnt have many friends and the ones i did have didnt stick up for me rather they joined in i was a very easy target. i could hide the bruises from family or was easily covered due to the horses and being around them. your right just one person caring makes it alot more bearable doesnt it. im glad you had others there for you too and youve become a better person. your a strong woman that i know!

Bullies do that @outlander - my brother got that until I knocked a few of them around at school and then I was caned with the boys but was the only one who didn't cry and they left my brother alone after that

It really does help to have people who cared - my brother was smaller than me and I cared -

Bullies are cowards really - they pick on people are if like you - they have few friends they will gang up on people and not everyone will speak up - it's really hard to do that - and you are right - I had to learn to be strong to stand up to my mother - no one else came anywhere near her - whew - life is not always easy for anyone

But yes - I have spoken out into my adult life - I still do it - they say "a prophet is not welcome in their own town" - a prophet is a person who speaks out against wrong-doing or whatever needs being said and yes - it is hard but it makes for a stronger person - it is something I am going through with my therapist because when I am in the mood I speak my mind.

I think though it feels better to me to do this rather than how I would feel if I didn't - but my mother was a bully and my father and grandparents were not bullies - they probably didn't know about my mother but they did build me up -

I would stand up for you - every time

Dec

i find it really hard to stand up for myself but ill stand up for others without a second thought @Owlunar bullies are cowards indeed but i cant help but think the reasoning behind it. some are jsut plain aholes but some i question the reason behind it.

hmm that quote makes sense! its very true really isnt it and can see both sides of that.

good on you for standing up for yourself and also your brother too

I am sure you would stand up for someone else @outlander - you know what it's like to be an outsider

My father was the local policeman - that could have gone either way for me - but with the kids at that school I was okay - even when I went to high school - but a couple of teachers thought I was a smarty-pants and I was but I thought if the teacher asked a question I needed to answer it if I could

Anyway - I think you are going through a time of change in your life - I have read it happening - I spend less time here than I used to and don't catch up on all the threads but I do read a bit here and there - your life isn't easy - anyone whose life is too easy won't learn much I think - and that is not our business

Some people are pure aholes and they will learn or not - but that's not our problem

I will be here more often now the seasons are changing - I have been alone for days except for a couple of times when I have had the chance to chat with someone - but when I spend time here it really feels as if I am talking to people and say and read more than the trivial and the small talk

Dec