@ENKELI Sorry for not getting back to you earlier. i wrote a whole chat and then somehow lost it before i could send it and did not know how to get it back from auto save.
i'll try again!😁
I'm fully with you on this my friend. i know both are passionate people, hurting real pain, love, i love to see more acceptance, respect, and good will grow between us and us finding a safe place to be ourselves even i our most hurting states.
One thing i would like to comment on - you thinking God was so cruel in your life. For i used to think like you, but i do no longer, for i met true God about this deep down in my pit, Jesus in Spirit literally keeping me from falling to my death below in that bottomless pit. This was the end of the rule of that cruel god in me. That abominable concept i had made of god in my mind because life down here had hurt me so badly, and he had never done anything about that, me going through my hell, living satan's lies.
Honest this revelation of satan as the abominable god i had in mind feeling like this about God, Daniel and Jesus talk about, and turned out to be not just a switch of focus in my life, but an unbelievable deliverance of evil.
For at the time i was on my knees convinced i would burn eternal hell for i the psychosis i had only recently suffered i had cursed him to his face and raged at him all my anger and hate like i have never raged at anyone i my whole life. i even chased Jesus [edited by moderator] completely out of my mind in rage. i had no idea how on earth Jesus could ever save me from doing that and then Jesus came and told me who He and The Father REALLY were on the bottom of my pit. With me ready to do my self in to avoid even more punishment from on-high Jesus Brought from on high Alive inside of my heart as i have NEVER lived my faith before.
For i could clearly see that Jesus, as well as our Heavenly Father, in Spirit, have suffered, and are suffering all our pain, sorrow, judgement, curse and in our suffering they are closer to us than we can ever begin to imagine, suffering everything we do, their goodness and love getting us through it, making us stronger, teaching us truth, so that on the other side of our fall we be in His truth and no more that ugly truth of world's lies ruling misery down on all life lived.
So truly when you see Jesus on the Cross dying for your sin, He is demonstrating The Truth of our Heavenly Father to us, just like He said in john 14 he did and does. For even as the lies hurt us in our lives down here, so the lies also hurt God and Jesus, and therefore ALL life.
So now knowing God is not cruel to make me suffer, and lovingly and patiently works all things for good in my life. This has stopped my rage against God and Jesus at the time totally dead in me. i will never again blame God guilty of any wrong doing, but know i will always meet Him in THE CENTRE of
The Cross of my life in suffering the lies crucifying me down here.
This is why i love the song below so much. For years i cried out to a god who did not answer me, nor heal my pain, but always blamed me and made me feel bad being tormented by evil.
Yet now i know The True Father of Jesus Christ. Our God is Love and this is why i did not hear Him in my deepest pit, for sadly love had died my torment and lies i believed about myself because of all that, and i needed raising up from the dead big time. (Rev 20:1-6 does truly happen in Spirit)
(The words before the music starts is the truth about God i also found to be true. While RIGHT at the end of the video, the singer expresses both our cry to god saying that the misery suffered was too much for us, life in lies ruling us misery down deep. See what you think.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4tHEwWLMJM&list=RDMMY4tHEwWLMJM&start_radio=1