Christian Chat

@DownMoreThanUp I felt very very uncomfortable at having Scripture thrown at me and it felt like you were using it as an excuse to try and change my mind. I immediately got a heavy feeling and that always indicates something not right.

You are free to breed dogs as much as you like, I just won't respect the decision if you are a backyard breeder selling your pups for your enjoyment and put the needs of the dog second.

Intact males are more likely to get testicular cancer. Females get breast cancer.

Why not register as a breeder if you are that passionate about it, or is there something about being registered that you don't like? Do you dock the tails and because that is against the law in Australia you can't register? That is a general question not an attack.

My view is that I put the animal first, not my needs or desires to make money off an innocent creature. God gave me a heart to do that, regardless of what the Bible says, I know what God told me about animals and animal welfare. I will never respect backyard unregistered breeders and if that doesn't sit well with you because it upsets your enjoyment of breeding for profit I am okay with that.

I have seen the heart breaking outcome from puppy and kitten mills and backyard breeders. My cat is the product of a backyard breeder. The conditions he and his littermates were found in were deplorable. The mother had been overbred. This is what happens when there is no regulation.

I am a very proud supporter of the RSPCA, Cat Haven, World Wildlife Federation and Free the Hounds - the latter being an organisation trying to ban greyhound racing, another disgusting "fun" thing for humans to exploit animals with.

You can choose to reply or not, as far as I am concerned the subject is closed as this is one thing we will never agree on.

@ENKELI My wife and me are just checking the local laws about all this. For we know they are busy with this, but have been for ages already. Much not implemented yet by the looks of it.

i fully agree with you that wrong doing while breeding dogs should be hindered as much as possible, but that does not mean agree those power hungry ones to make more laws taking our rights away.

This does not mean i would consider breaking the law about this. i was only just pointing out how the powers to be, just like religion always has done, is taking our God given rights away, using the sins of others. And that often passionate law lovers, for all the good they intent, often play in the hands of these power hungry people who want to take our rights away.

i know, like they have always done taking our freedoms away, use the name of valid concerns, but when do the laws they end up making remain good? When do they not end up costing us a bomb, or when do they prevent the wrongs from happening?

i know from experience that often such ends up funding our bulging legal system, with ever more people in jail for no violent crimes, ever more crime syndicates, and ever more black markets selling crap. And of course a lot of human misery in its wake. (Just think about our war on drugs, since the late 60s, and where that got us since then.) Like happens every time we ignore God's word or think we know better making more laws when there are other ways doing things than making laws.

Like i said to you i planned to breed our dogs. i had not looked into it any further than that until tonight. i did hear some some rumours that they are following the unelected World Economic.Forum derectives about this. Checking tonight i had no idea they were all ready so far with making these law, but i know for sure i would have found out when we visits the vet in 6 months checking the dogsr hips out. i'm sure he would inform us soon enough about the requirements, or if there was anything that would make breeding them not a good idea.

i'm sorry you find it hard when i use God's word to defend myself from past experiences with other people doing that. i understand this does make it hard for you not to hear negative remarks when i use God's word. On the other hand for me the word of God is not just what i believe in on Sundays, but the truths i base all my life decisions on. Truly it is my survival handbook, my biggest treasure! So you calling me a label like that is upsetting to me and uncalled for. i know i planned to do no wrong, none of which you accused me anyhow. i just planned to breed my dogs when Zeta is the right age.

My wife just told me it is still unclear what the laws are about this, and we will have to go to the local council to get clarity. For we live in the country, on a large block. The laws appear to be different different for us therefore than for dog owners in the Suburbs. My wife said the new laws appear not to be in force for us yet.

Peace.

i know thats ripping your soul @avant-garde

i do understand if you only knew. is this her mums usual stance or only since things turned so scary?

she went in for surgery is that right?

im only asking hoping you had time talk with Jasmin your princess friend before admission if her mum normally this way.

is it a lively song you both share as your forever song?

of course i ask thinking to help not distress so please dont feel pressure to answer any more than comfortable and if thats nothing no need for explanation either its ok

@REDLINEZ750

I think you're getting confused

I'm the one having the surgery, next year.

Jasmine was admitted on Sunday or Monday, likely through emergency. I found out Monday she was in hospital because we would normally catch up Tuesday.

Her mum told me today that she's been moved to ICU.

Her mum is usually like this, keeps people at arms length.

Jasmine and I messaged back and forth yesterday, I was going to visit Friday afternoon, we were making each other laugh.

yea sorry i was going by a memory of surgery being mentioned,

your in a horrible position, have you tried using your writing gift to get what you want to say out in the open then share it with her when she comes round? @avant-garde

its something if her mums keeping you updated at least or that took some effort from you?

your whole weeks been distraught then since Monday

it sounds like she would be worried about you too

@REDLINEZ750

Today's writing comes after shower which comes after this chapter

She needed no prompting to let me know, said she'd keep me informed

maybe there will be an opportunity her mum needs to leave and you can offer to sit there so shes not alone @avant-garde if she isnt better before hand you could offer that so shes able to go home quickly.

even if dont want too leave for a sec as a parent hospital staff encourage it for time to regather your own self

@DownMoreThanUp your God given rights?! What "God given rights" have been stolen from you?

As for bringing up wrongly incarcerated people, that is utter bunkum. My ex was a prison officer for over 30 years. I don't recall him telling me about the plethora of "innocent victims" in Fremantle and Casuarina prisons. My mum's friend is an officer at Bandyup, she's never mentioned any "victims" either.

To use a verse from the most important book in the world to aid your view on backyard breeding I find distasteful. Too many people have thrown Bible verse at me as an excuse for their poor behaviour. Perhaps instead of being the victim you might have asked why I was so triggered by your throwing Scripture at me.

It was more important for you to prove your point.

I don't need your approval or views on Christianity. My relationship with God is firm and unchangeable by man.

can you talk to her mum about the cards?

seeing how much you care she may be flexible enough to let you put them in the room so when Jasmin comes too she knows you were there @avant-garde

if her mum keeps people at bay she might not know who was closest and in her mind is protecting her daughter from people that just want something to gossip about, sounds like she has an idea already

@REDLINEZ750

I appreciate you trying to problem solve, but I don't need a problem solver right now, I need a friend.