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Where are we on the pecking oder?

Where are we on the pecking oder?

I have been reading a whole lot written about mental illness, disability,and other discrimination over the last month. From all this material it makes you wonder where we with MI fit.

The Minister for Social Services, who by the way is opening some World Congress of Families conference in Melbourne I think soon (this is a homophobic-anti womens right to choose far right group that praises the Russian Government for its antii gay persecution) has been attacking the majority of DSP welfare recipients with MI as not needing support because their illness is "episodic" and they should be able to work between the episodes.

This shows a great deal of insight into how MI works!!!! I also read the new impairment tables for people with MI which is being implemented now.

To get the DSP based on mental illness you i have to be virtually institutionalized and completely non functioning. This is totally removed from the original purpose of the DSP which was to assist us financially so that we could eat, pay rent and take part as a member of society because we couldn't work and had little or no assets. Well, what about working between those episodes?

The unemployment rate has climbed up to 6.5% and rising. Youth unemployment is about 17% and rising. There are almost no effective strategies to place people with mental illness in the work place, even if there were jobs available.

Leave aside regional Australia, where the unemployment rate is through the roof, the general availability of jobs for MI people is at historic lows. MI people are competing against a young demographic of job seekers who are perceived to have no "complications" in being employed and are cheap to employ and train, due to government subsidies.

Included in this are a large group of other discriminated against disabled people. Add to this people discriminated against because of Age, Aboriginality and a whole lot of other reasons.

So people with MI are not only competing against the non ill workforce but a large group of other disabled and disadvantaged groups as well, all with their own financial and work demands, which seem to get more sympathetic air play and attention than those suffering M!.

It seems to me that these various disadvantaged groups, are out their pitching for their own groups interests, often at the disadvantage of people with MI who pretty well get no good press and even less dollars. Media, has been vicious in their portrayal of DSP recipients with MI.

I am still trying to find some concrete practical strategies which actually forward the interests of people with MI. I am still looking!!!!!!

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The episodic thinking is totally wrong. I have Schizoaffective Disorder and yes I do have episodes, but they can last anything from a day, a week, a month or in my case over years.

There is nothing predictable about it. My hallucinations, mania, delusions and every other thing that goes with schizophrenia can happen anytime and sometimes continually, so there is no predictability about it.

On the one hand the government says you should work because you are functional between episodes and on the the other hand no one will employ you at all because you are MI. I really want to work but no one will even look at me because I disclose my MI. So episodic or not its mainly impossible to get a job anyway.

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I'm not sure where the smiley in my post came from as I didn't put it there?

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It's a catch22 situation Kenny.

The Governments stance will only cause more stress,fear and worry for many,factors which are known in themselves to cause or exacerbate mental illness symptoms.
Are you able to not disclose your MI or is it obvious in some way like obvious cognitive issues during the interview or appearing “absent“ etc?

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Hi Ivana

I do let everyone know about my MI at interviews and that mostly means I never hear back from any one who might offer me a job.

When I am OK-I am quite on the ball so I mainly do fine at the interview until I tell them I have schizophrenia. Its not something I feel I should hide-Im not ashamed of it.

I did get 3 job offers when I didn't tell the employing people at first but thought about it and felt i shouldn't have to hide it so I told them. I was knocked back for all 3 after that.

I get some thinking and concentration problems from the mood stabiliser drugs and a couple of the antipsychotics can knock you around. If I take my drugs when I am supposed to I most often keep the worst of the schizophrenia jazz under wraps.

The government gives $10,000 for unemployed people to get jobs but I think just unemployed people get the jobs through this, not unemployed people with MI. i am not depressed about it, but I think I have to give up any chance of work.

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You typed colon P and the software autosmilied you, Ivana! 😛 😛 😉 :P;( 😞 🙂 😉 🙂

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Hey Kenny.

I have been diagnosed with a Bi-polar Affective Disorder. Consequently; I know things.

I know I will get the right job, at the right time, with the right employer.

I hope you know that too.

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I hope I do too

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