Night Shift

@Jacques Thanks, Jacques. I am very interested in my relatioship with God and Jesus. I'm not very interested in debates about 'relgiion'.

Yes, when i was working i got treated badly by my colleagues for having a mental illness. When I left the workforce I was treated badly by people who could see i was able to work. although i do a lot of work now, the people i work for tend to treat me badly because i have a mental illness, and all and sundry others seem to think that i am lying about working because i have a mental illness and that apparently makes me a liar and because i mostly work from home and they can't actually see me working in their workplace.

it's all ridiculous. when we get rights it will change. we WILL get rights, and the sooner the better. In the meantime, I believe that God will provide.

Cheers @Jacques 🙂

Dear @Terry

Thanks for the message. deep in the archives of my ol' brain......I remembered I've done times of volunteer work....One which was pushing the magazine and lolly trolley around a spinal unit in a rehabilitation hospital.......

I dont think that you will bluff your way into anything. I've been reading your lovely messages ...to Jacques and others and Im wondering how do you feel that you have ...kept on going on? You are pretty cool how you .....get through while keeping your own self.

YOu say that you have been diagnosed with BPD and I am so sorry that you have this dehabilitating disease. I think that your brave for just coming on and coping with anxiety and abandonment issues in the first place. I have A relative who is diagnosed with a very bad dose of BPD and I feel so so sad for her because she doesnt ....try like you are. Her feelings of insecurity and abandonment are very difficult for her to manage.

WE all have diagnoses here but we all tie in and get through them. Your another person who shows everyone that you are a hard hard worker on seeing the world with fresh eyes.......

I love how you do this but it's difficult some days is'nt it ....

Sorry @Terry, i did not mean to sound like i was being mean about your religion or get into debates, i was just trying to say if it makes you happy then it is no one elses business, all i want for in life is for everyone to do what they want, if they are happy, then i am happy 🙂

Yes i do know the heartache of people being mean, @Terry their are always goign to be some people you will never please no matter what, you just need to identify those people and avoid them as best you can 🙂

I do hope one day people can leave each other alone, it makes me so angry people are not allowed to be happy becuase of others values or beliefs. Everyone has the right to be content with their lives.

@PeppiPattyi know longer have BPD - I was healed of that in a miracle. BPD is just about the most painful thing I can imagine (i would compare it to having just broken your ankle, which i did once, and trying to get by in that state). Support your friend the best you can. i mostly just suffer now from not having a 'normal' life (rights), and anxiety and ptsd (which have been caused by the mental health system). i still seem to have few symptoms of bipolar hanging around but nothing much to talk about. i've got to get out of the house and into the day for a while now or my posts will become depressing. got a coupla things to do too. catch you all soon x

@Jacques Thanks Jacques. I'm not sure that christians are any happier than anyone else. But they are saved, and if they live a good christian life they will be happy and prosperous. They aren't any better than anyone else either, but I think because of their faith, they behave better on average, than others (if that makes any sense). Being a christian is about putting others before yourself as much as possible, and that can be very rewarding - it makes one 'feel good' (not that i feel very advanced in my christian walk so far).

i've got to go get out into daylight. catch you all later x 🙂

Wow, the forum is like Bourke Street, Melbourne on a busy day! Cool to see friends around and chatty this morning.

Hello @PeppiPatty What a great little family you and hubby and Arlo make. I've had a few coffees already this morning, as I woke up at 4.30am and couldn't get back to sleep. Thanks for being sweet to me. About the work issue, I'm going to join into the 'Why Work?' event tomorrow morning. I too am interested to hear more peoples' thoughts on this.

@Mazarita i don't know what good a 'why work?' event would be(?) - nearly all human beings want to work; employers don't tend to want us! even volunteer employers often put up a fight! mind you, no-one in this country likes me as an 'employee' much because of other (silly) reasons too. and the australian workplace generally is a ridiculous bun-fight compared to o/s. i've GOT to go out. catch yous later x

Ha ha @Terry a good conversation can distract us from our daily tasks and routines. It is a good forum.

It has cheered me up over the last 7 months that I have been involved. Whether the conversation is deep, struggling for answers or conciliation, or chatty.

I can do chatty without dragging up my story ... eg with parents and students etc ... but it doesnt mean as much to me as when i am accepted for ALL OF ME.

@MazaritaI believe most people want to work and be productive and creative .. I see it as natural part of being human .. and I used to work in Social Security ... I realise there are some people who want to wriggle out of things sometimes or drag their feet .. but genuine self esteem comes from pulling one's weight.

I have gained a great deal from doing volunteer work over the years .. though am not doing much currently ..getting a social life is my main learning edge at the moment ... a social life online here .. and irl.

Maybe I could or should push to get more students or go teach in a school .. but this year might be better served by my sorting out my papers and getting my story down ... than beating my breast about earning money ... I always try to contribute somehow ... maybe keeping the kids on my street a bit positive is enough for this year .. I have the best quality of life than I ever have regarding ... food and home security ... and verbal chats ... now even acquaintances and friends ...

cheers Apple ...

thanks @Jacques I needed that sleep ... got up to do son's lunch ... he went in to city .. and I went back to bed til noon ... I am quite exhausted .. will be meeting him for dinner in town and then both off to a new (for him/ old for me) choir. Back home late late.

@PeppiPatty keep up the good fight ... you are all in my heart.

@Terry I also had a good time in the UK when I was 21. I worked there for a while and they were not as sexist as our blokes... as a vague generalisation ... there are exceptions to every rule.

Most people have difficulties with being in groups as everyone's "belonging" sense is triggered.

Earlier this month a psychologist policy maker in Canberra confessed to me she had difficulties in groups which is why we both opted for a non dorm room in my music course in NSW. She tested the waters out to see if we could be "partners in crime" her words. Then she said in a chatty tone about me doing music with a bad neck "Your mad" to which I promptly replied "Yes of course .. I am the daughter of 2 schizophrenics and married one." Poor lady ... all she wanted to do was sleep ... it was out of my mouth in as chatty a tone as her openers. We settled it by having single rooms next door and being chatty throughout the course but not too close. I actually probably need the single for my neck but it seemed too big a spend. I felt ok in being authentic, and she had a very gentle persona which I need as too much carry on puts my neck out. She also knew a lot about Forgotten Australians in a theoritcal manner as her friend was working on it in Canberra ... so she got to meet one irl.

In my late 20s after Pol Sci degree, I did a lot of group theory and practise in Psychodrama. It helps not take others' issues as personally as I used to. I introjected everything ... was introverted and painfully shy.

@Former-Member's take on the guy in bible study is spot on ..

@Terry its up to you what you do .. but if you like the group generally and that one incident got up your nose ... it could be worth it to stay ...

there is the norm storm perform elements in groups. He might not realise how much it effected all your other feelings and interactions ... which sounds perfectly reasonable to me ... and others may be conscious or unconsciously effected too ... maybe you can broach it gently with him one to one... rather than letting it build up inside you.

I am a bit naughty now ... and feel "god" wants me to improve some of his little groups on earth ..or why did he make me this bloody way ... though I also am bereft when I spit out more than nice good manners ... but I have been known to tell it straight in my very polite respectable church choir ... the conductors dont refer to the females as old chooks anymore . ..

The Moreno Institute has great ideas but the founder was as paranoid as hell. We are all just peeple.