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forum guideline help?

forum guideline help?

I've made several posts and replies since joining yesterday and have had to edit almost every one due to key words, but the key words seem completely arbitrary. for instance i have struggled with addiction and in speaking about it i was able to use the words meth and heroin, but not the full word for coke. i've been told to edit words that involve violence, but if i switch the word to a synonym, it posts. i guess the questions would be

1. why should the words be sensored? a lot of my experience that brought me here was of a very negative quality, a lot of the reason i joined was to be able to share my experiences with other people who have similar ones. as long as i am not encouraging any manner of negative behavior i don't understand why i should have to edit my past.

2. what system is there for deciding which words are sensored? i can say buzzkill, but i can't put a space in the word, even though the second half of it is a word which can be used in many non-negative connotations and the same can be said of a lot of the things that have been censored in my posts

3. am I being offensive to anyone by talking about my addiction/dark times? I feel that because of these experiences i am who i am and i think what i think, i want to be able to interact with this community in an open manner but if i am being offensive i need to be told, because i have a very hard time reading cues even in a face to face conversation. if someone doesn't tell me explicitly that i'm doing something wrong, i will almost definitely miss it.

Thanks in advance for your help.

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Sweet of you to say, I wouldn't put myself in such lofty company as Mandela, but I am touched that you did.

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@Techunique

more about making the point be it Nelson mandala..or any renowned people who have brought about change for the better in this world

bob geldof....all started with a thought

so the emphasis is on the start...the thought...change ....not the fame. Believing in yourself

if you felt touched that is good too....

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Hello @Techunique , you have raised an interesting debate about the scope OR the boundary of censorship of 'words' and or 'statements' that may cause triggers and be distressing for others.
I have read the community guidelines and for me it appears clear as to 'why' a few specific topic's are censored. I think I read 4 or 5.
There was a statement there saying something like...things that may be distressing or are triggers for others...those are not the exact words it is what I can recall.
I remember contributing to a thread about suicide well? it wasn't about how to commit suicide but the 'feelings' surrounding the thought I believe. A moderator and several contributors did reply in this post but I was hesistant to contribute. A person did say to me to not mention method but talk of the experience. (and I'm thinking of the trigger to lead up to me wanting to 'sleep' as I put it)
So? my query would be ...if I spoke of my experience leading up to wanting to take my life then it could or would be a trigger factor for another? If I had mentioned the physical reactions, emotions, images of trauma, hearing voices (and not mentioning who & where) this may be a trigger.
I say this because? some posts have included 'hearing' voices or comments of their mother. Which I find people shouldn't be allowed to do. There should be no 'naming' and belongs in a closed forum.
I will say tho @Techunique if I heard a experience of someone's self-harm (a huge topic there and I'm referring in particular to the topic of drugs) it will give me ideas. I feel embarrassed to say that.
Yes I agree, sharing experiences will educate people and inform others and allow others to offload and be heard. I am also confused by the meaning of censorship here.

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Gosh I just read what I posted. Apologies to @Techunique if I was aiming it ..I mean what I said was not at you...it was meant to be general to the wider forum. Sometimes I cant focus properly....

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I could not agree more, I consider it to be part of my life's purpose to help steer people away from the road that led me to near ruin. As far as involving a local politician I have made attempts but have been discouraged with my failures in this particular approach, I've spent months on more than one waiting list only to be casually dismissed as a busybody, or single voice amongst a crowd of people who are being ignored by a government that is "doing their best." Being an American, one of my conversations with a mayor of a town was actually referenced in a re-election campaign in the context of why mandatory minimum sentences ought to be lengthened in an effort to win the "War On Drugs." When I heard that my experience was being perverted from a well-informed plea for more effective rehabilitation into a manipulative tactic to gain votes by further imprisoning others like me I resolved that government was not the path to helping people for me. I have been, since that time, simply been open about my addictions, their causes, the way they tricked me into following one addiction with another, their prolonged nature, how it was that I came to find the strength to leave them behind and Any other detail the public needs to know, no matter how embarrassing or how deeply I feel that the detail required ought to only be part of my private life. I feel that I, personally, can help the widest base of people by sharing my experience with those I meet who need it most, whether they are addicted themselves or if I see the precursors to addiction in them that I now recognize were in myself. In this community I feel that I may be even more open than I allow myself to be with others I meet, the openmindedness, respect, willigness to listen and the willingness to accept my experiential advice have been overwhelmingly wonderful. I could not ask for a higher caliber of community than I have found here. If I did it would be very selfish of me.

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I've just returned from a stint of being incommunicado and seeing that there were new responses to this thread I read through the conversation from the beginning to make sure I was familiar with any salient points I may have forgotten. I had not quite fully thought of the implications of withdrawal. I quit some very heavy drugs cold turkey and went through some of the worst mental and physical pain of my life as a result. While I feel that it was the correct path for me and that allowing Myself (super huge amount of emphasis on that word) to wean off would have more than likely resulted in my relapse, I feel absolutely compelled to state here that this can be a very difficult, discouraging, and oftentimes recklessly dangerous thing to do. There is more than one person I once called friend who does not draw breath today as a result of withdrawl, whether directly from the withdrawl itself or from the self inflicted violence brought on by their perception that their addiction had led them into a place from which there was no return or betterment. Thank you for bringing this up, it is of Critical importance.

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No worries, I was not offended. I began this thread with an honest sense of curiosity as to how I might be triggering people and I found your response very brave, open, and honest; I would never dream of being offended by a pointed comment when What it was pointed at outweighed the Who it was pointed at. I understand that this is potentially a very delicate subject, and a desire to not overstep bounds is chief amongst my many desires this community fulfills. I feel safe here and I do not want to take that away from anyone else. I still feel that without using a word that can be damaging certain topics are very difficult to approach, and that there are some topics where the censorship of those words makes it difficult to give somebody informed counsel or solidarity. I feel that this wonderfully thoughtful community is capable of quite literally saving a life, but that while we attempt to put ourselves in a position to pull one person up, we do not put another in a position to fall down. So in this sense you are totally correct. Part of the mindset that was leading me to the questioning of the censorship was this selfsame wonderful respect, I have not observed any hateful remarks or purposeful comments which were primarily leading another into places where it was emotionally or mentally unsafe to be. (with the exception of two posts that were unhealthily despairing, by myself, I'm sad to say) I've come to the viewpoint that the censorship is a very good reminder that we need to be careful (because of my own despairing posts) but I do still feel that in certain situations being able to recount something in vivid detail could be an aid in giving assistance that feels more personally attached, which can sometimes mean the world to someone in distress. I'd love to hear your further input on this.
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