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Supporting an already Depressed Partner through Cancer diagnosis

Supporting an already Depressed Partner through Cancer diagnosis

This week has been a really tough one.

On Monday I learned that my Mum has advanced breast cancer already spread to the lungs and likely the bones. The prognosis is very poor.

Then on Wednesday it was confirmed that my husband has lung cancer (multiple nodules) which has metastisised from either the kidney cancer he had 6 years ago or the melanoma he had removed 18 months ago. Either way the outlook is bleak. We are now going through the process of blood tests, needle aspirations for a sample to determine the origin of the tumors, bone scans, physician apts to determine whether his overall health is good enough to undergo possible treatment or surgery, etc. Once thats all done we will see the Oncologist armed with all the necessary information in order to determine where we go from here.

I am carer for my husband, who has PTSD, anxiety, depression, alcoholism and a number of other physical health issues. The diagnosis this week has hit him hard, he has had no symptoms, so it was a surprise. Only picked up due to the routine annual scans that he has had since his kidney cancer 6 years ago. Apparently it is not unusual to experience no symptoms with metastisised cancer of the lung.

He is now deeply depressed, extremely vague and forgetful, and is obviously feeling really vulnerable.

I have personally had a really difficult year and a half with loss of an 11yo niece through a car accident, my brother being suicidal, my own PTSD being triggered by a series of incidents. And now, the two most important people in my world (Mum and Husband) are both going through the ordeal of likely untreatable cancer, both within a two day period. I feel like my whole world has come crashing down, and I am struggling with everything.

My mother and other immediate family lives 6.5 hours from here, so it is not easy to be there for her. And I cant leave my husband anyway as he has to be my priority. So many appointments over the coming week or two. So I am feeling very frustrated and useless all round. Its so hard when there is simply nothing I can do for either one of them.

The best I can do is to try to remain positive for both of them. So far hubby is fairly positive, but I dont think he is fully aware of the ramifications of his diagnosis. But I am feeling far from positive myself. So how do I remain upbeat and positive for him, when I am personally crumbling under the pressure? I know how important positive thinking is when it comes to physical health issues, and I guess mental as well. But right now .... I am struggling to find a way through my own misery. Intense anxiety symptoms have once again descended.

Any advice would be appreciated.

@Shaz51 Tagged as requested in Friday Feast. Also the other mainstay in my support team @Faith-and-Hope.

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@Former-Member @Shaz51 @Faith-and-Hope @Former-Member @Zoe7 @outlander and anyone else who may have been reading along. I realise this is a fairly long post, and I hope I dont bore everyone's socks off!

It's been a month since my last update here, so I thought it was about time to post an update as to what's been happening in my Carer world lately. My lived experience issues have been taking up most of my head space lately, so I feel a need to try and switch focus somewhat. So here goes ....

Good news first - hubby had his 3-monthly scans and blood tests a couple of weeks ago to check on his cancer status. We saw his oncologist last Thursday, and he delivered the good news that hubby's 'terminal cancer' remains in remission. The immunotherapy has done what it's meant to do by making his own immune system attack the cancer cells which had spread to his lungs. So it is a really good result! Of course, they can never say it's cured, because once cancer is Stage IV and spread to your internal organs, it is always a possibility that it will return. But really, for the time being at least, it's the best result we can hope for. What has been 3-monthly monitoring scans has now been extended to 6-monthly, so that's another good thing. The scans which he fears so much, are no longer to be as frequent.

So that piece of good news gave hubby a real boost for a couple of days, it was good to see. He even started to talk about going away with his good mate for a few days on a golf trip some 10 hours drive away. This is a golfing group he has been going to for something like 28 years now. He did not go last year because he was so unwell, but he has been to every other yearly trip. He's the one who instigated the trip initially, with a number of fellow business people taking a weekend away to play 3 days of golf. There are between 24-36 men usually attend, and it's at a different location each year, with a couple of years even being overseas. Hubby will not be able to play golf of course, but some of the guys have been trying to encourage him to attend and get around in a golf cart and act as 'starter' for the competition. While he was feeling a little more positive after his oncology appointment last Friday he finally agreed to go, and I sent off his money for his accommodation and meals. He will travel and share a room with his good mate who lives across the road. I'm confident he will keep a close eye on him, so he will hopefully be okay. I need to have a serious talk to his friend beforehand though, because I don't think he fully realises how much assistance and how reliant on others, hubby really is.

The fact that hubby was feeling positive enough to commit to going on this trip is a good thing. Normally he goes away with a group of his mates at least 3 times a year, plus this golf trip. And it's now been over 18 months since he's been anywhere at all. It will do him so much good to get away and spend time with some of his old buddies and former business colleagues. To be completely honest ... the few days break will do me the world of good too.

With regards to his Parkinson's Disease? Well that continues to be a day by day thing. One day he seems to be showing some improvement, then the next he goes downhill again. So very up and down, a real roller coaster ride. And with it, the depression is also up and down like a yoyo. I think overall though, he is making some slow progress. But because it is slow, he doesn't really notice it himself. He's just impatient to be better NOW. I took him to his appointment with his Dermatologist yesterday, to check for more skin cancers and melanoma's. This is something he needs to have done at least every 6 months because of already having melanoma, but also because his Parkinson's disease means he is 9 times more likely to develop melanoma than the average person. Interestingly his dermatologist commented that he was looking so much better than last time she saw him. I think that gave him a bit of a boost too. I said to him "see - other people are noticing that you are indeed looking much better". But of course I could tell him that a 100 times and it would mean nothing, but if someone else does ... it counts.

The Parkinson's Disease (PD) is a difficult one. So many things affected which most people are not aware is even a symptom of PD. Simple things like Depression, Constipation, Eye problems, Inability to Swallow ... all very typical for PD sufferers. But the one thing which bothers him the most is his lack of mobility and balance. The medication helps mainly with slowness of movement issues, and I can see improvements in this area. Even simple things like facial expression, eye blinks, etc have improved. His mobility however, does not seem to be improving much at all. He still leans heavily on me for support if we are out and about. If he needs to walk more than about 20 meters, he is almost crawling by the time he gets there. He shuffles, he leans and stoops, then his feet cannot keep up with his head and he almost falls.

He hates to hold onto me when we are in public though, and he refuses to use a walker. So he does the best he can on his own. Yesterday I was unable to get a park immediately outside the Drs and nowhere to drop him off in front. I parked about 50 meters from the Dermatologist, ran around and helped him out of the car and held his elbow as we walked there, just to offer some support without being too obvious, which would embarrass him. We were almost there, before he failed to pick his feet up enough to step up the one shallow step he needed to negotiate to get to the door. Thankfully I anticipated it and managed to keep us both upright, but it was touch and go. And ouch ... I've managed to wrench my back and shoulder in the process. It would be so much easier if he would agree to use a walker as support. He is a proud man though, and continues to refuse to do that.

My Mum and Dad continue to struggle at home. Dads GP is pushing for numerous treatments and tests he considers necessary. But Mum refuses to make appointments or cancels them if the GP makes them. She tells me "he's old, what does he need that for"? I really don't know if she is intentionally withholding treatment in an attempt to hasten his demise, or whether she feels it's just all too hard to get him to appointments. Perhaps that could also account for the fact that she is so haphazard with his medications? He is on blood thinners, and when she finally took him to see his GP recently, they were horrified that his INR readings were so bad. I think Mum doubles up sometimes then misses other doses. I know she is concerned that she may predecease my Dad. He is a difficult man in many respects, and she seems to think none of us are able to handle him if she were not around. Perhaps her motivation is noble, but I think terribly unfair. The aging process is a difficult and sad one.

Mum has an appointment next month to get approval from her GP to retain her driver's licence for another year. I am hoping that her GP is aware of the clear dementia signs she has been displaying. But I fear that is not the case ... she is good at hiding her difficulties or glossing over her failures to those who do not see her often. I've spoken to my sister and hoping she will go with her on the day. Honestly she is dangerous in a car! She goes too fast, does not look, and gets lost even in her small country town. She loses house keys, garage keys, car keys. She forgets where she has left her car. When she parks she does so up kerbs, in gutters, on footpaths, etc. She is dangerous to herself, other drivers and even people on footpaths. I sure hope the GP can see that. But I also know Mum will be devastated if she loses her licence. I'm trying to prepare her for the possibility, by gently talking about alternatives if she were unable to drive. But she won't hear of it.

Okay, I can hear hubby stirring at last. I'd best go get his medications ready and some breakfast happening. It's so hard cooking for him these days, as he has no appetite at all and more often than not, he leaves most of what I give him. His Parkinsons medications also causes a lot of nausea, which doesnt help. Doesn't give me much incentive to try and cook good meals though. Because of the medications he's on, he hasn't lost much weight so far. Although I have ... which is something my psych commented on when I last saw her. Maybe I can tempt hubby with some poached eggs and tomato on toast this morning. If he wont eat it ... Holly and I will.

Sherry ☕🌺🌼💕

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So good to hear all the positive news with hubby @Former-Member It would certainly be great for him to get away for a few days and would very much be a wanted break for you too Hon It must make it so hard that he won't use a walker and has to rely on you to help him get around. I hope your back is okay and you haven't done too much damage there - it is definitely not what you need right now

Your mum is definitely very stubborn. I can understand your parents not wanting to lose their independence but it is harming them both - especially the meds situation and not taking them regularly. It sounds like she is dangerous on the roads and should not be allowed to drive - that would definitely be a major blow to her independence but the safety of others is more important.

Hope hubyy eats some of his breakfast - otherwise Holly will have a real treat. Hugs to you (and Holly) @Former-Member So much good news with hubby depsite the ongoing issues - it is good to be able to receive some good news amidst all the tricky stuff too

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Evening @Former-Member

How has your day been? How are you going tonight?

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Hi beautiful @outlander . My day has been difficult. Hubby wouldnt eat the breakfast I cooked. But ended up forcing down a piece of toast with s cup of tea. He needs to have some of his meds with food, so its important he eats something.

Then mid morning, i was outside and heard an almighty crashing sound from inside the house. I came running in to find hubby crashed out on the floor. He had gone to stand up from his chair, but failed to move his feet. So he came crashing back down and fell iheavily nto a cupboard then to the floor. He is okay, but very sore and sorry for himself.

As a result, I did not make it to my voluntary work at the nursing home today.

And hubby is now starting to backtrack on his decision to attend the businessmans golf trip in a couple of weeks time. I guess this latest fall has just highlighted his vulnerability.

I really hope he does go, because I think it will be really good for him. Its important to have goals, something to aim for and look forward to. He needs a sense of normality in his life. And I have told him that if he copes with this trip away with his mates, our next aim is to fly to Perth later in the year to visit his ailing 93yo father.

Outlander, you asked how I am. I dont really want to go into it too much here, as most of that is more appropriate in my LE thread. I will say that I too am very sore after yesterday when I hurt my back and shoulder. I went into town briefly to collect a script for medication to help ease muscle spasms in my back. Its really stirred things up, and its quite painful. It will ease off if I rest.

Anyway ... how are you? Was it a physio apt you had today? I hope that went well?

Thanks @Zoe7 yes a lot of positives, which is good.

Thanks also @Former-Member @Former-Member @Shaz51 @Faith-and-Hope for your support.

Hi also @Starta and @Peri who I forgot to tag this morning when I posted my update. I hope you are both okay? I will update my other thread soon, and respond to your posts then.

Sherry 😀💜

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Oh dear 😞 @Former-Member you and hubby didn't need that to happen esp after some positive news. I hope that he will still go away with his mates, i think itll do him some good too.

Thats ok you talk wherever you feel is moat appropriate and comfortable for you. No pressure but when you feel up to making the post please do tag me.

Your pain sounds horrible. I can relate to back spasms and pain from my own stuff. It isnt very nice and makes things much harder. Could you maybe soak in a hot bath with epsom salts or radox to ease your pain along with meds? Heat packs? Muscle creams like voltaren?
Resting up isnt always possible with caring.

I was suppose to have physio but i changed it for a few days time instead. Im waiting for the burn blisters to pop or go down first ( i got burnt by a car exhaust a few days ago) they are going down so shouldnt be to much longer. My days been a little quieter though besides the horses and rearranging appts i just spent the time studying and movies and things.

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💜💐💕 @Former-Member

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Thanks @Faith-and-Hope 🌺

@outlander - very true ... we could have done without that little mishap right now. Yes I will tag you when I post to my other thread.

I get intermittent sciatica and quite bad nerve pain when my back plays up. The medication for the back spasms is a muscle relaxant which helps with the pain as well. I have never found any of those creams like voltaren to be effective. I do use a heated wheat pack however, which is helpful. As far as rest goes ... I am trying. Meant to have an appointment for hubby tomorrow at his exercise physiologist. Exercise being vitally important to maintain as much mobility as possible with his Parkinsons Disease. He has refused to go the past 2 weeks. And when I escorted him to bed tonight he was saying he is just way too sore to even contemplate going tomorrow. So it looks like it wont happen tomorrow either. As selfish as it sounds, I'm hoping he decides not to go. I really dont feel up to driving around town trying to find parking spots and escorting him to and from the gym. But I can feel the medication having an affect already, so thats a good thing.

Ouch, burns from car exhausts can be nasty. I remember I got burnt once as a teenager. I was on the back of a ute on the farm, and there was a motor on the back with an exhaust and I got quite badly burnt on the side of the leg. Took ages to heal and I still have a scar to show for it. Ahh so you have started studying for the new course you are soon to commence? Did you see any good movies worth mentioning?

Okay I should go try to get some sleep now. Feeling very tired and in dire need of some decent sleep after over a week of little to none. My mind is in super hyper mode however, and I'm having much difficulty in shutting it down. I downloaded the Smiling Mind app onto my phone earlier to see if it is worth using. A lot of people recommend it, but I know little about it. I need to work my way through it now to see if its helpful or not. Tomorrow is the 28th Feb. And as its not a leap year, there is no 29th Feb. So tomorrow is anniversary day. 😟

Good night 'Lil one.

Sherry 🌺🎶💕

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Thinking of you today @Former-Member
Sending lots and lots of hugs ❤❤

I can respond to your post but wanted to check in with you first. Getting through today is important

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Oh @Former-Member .

Im really sorry to hear that hubby has taken another fall...I hope he is starting to heal now.l.Same with your sore back, I hope the meds work to lesson the pain for you

I also hope that hubby can get away for the golfing to give you a little break and some you time...you certainly need it...

I think if you can both make that trip to see his dad it would benefit you both a lot, different scenery etc...fingers crossed thing go okay for you both until and if the trip can be made..

My thoughts are with you Sherry, I hope you are doing okay within yourself and are managing okay with all you have to deal with..

My heart goes out to you...

Please sweety don’t worry about posting on mine, I’m in my own little world atm, and really want to stay there while I can...I will update mine soon....

Look after you the best you can dear friend..

caring hugs..🤗🤗..

Starta..

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@Former-Member

A little something for you.

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