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How I came out of the delusional way of thinking without medication - An experience of an individual!

How I came out of the delusional way of thinking without medication - An experience of an individual!

Hi Folks,

I hope the following post made by this person would help you too. This is a reply made by a person to one of my posts.

https://www.mentalhealthforum.net/forum/thread153854.html(ps admins: None has mentioned their personal details here)

"How I came out of the delusional way of thinking:

Dan, thank you so much for this information. I’m going through a stressful situation for sometime now and because of the things happened to me, it always made me to believe that others could read my mind. I couldn't understand it at all how it's happening to me. I currently live in an apartment and here it's like everyone seems to know what I'm thinking. Not only the people who live with me in the same building, people in my city and the people in other cities could read my mind. This thing happened to me sometime back in the past on few occasions but this time I experienced it continuously for months and then I started hearing voices too during this period. Medication didn't help me to come out of it and the doctor that I consulted told me that delusions are common to schizophrenics and he treated me as a schizophrenic. I actually thought that these people have some special abilities that I don’t have and sometimes I thought they lie about it. Because of this sometimes I had so many arguments with people even. I’m also experiencing that people in television programs, radio stations could read my mind. Since few days ago after I reading your post, I started looking at my experiences in a different way and I actually started talking to these strangers that I meet in streets who I thought could read my mind to see if there’s a truth to what you are saying. After doing so I managed to become friends with one person and then later I met him to have a beer. We had an interesting conversation for few hours and then I explained him about my experience. He is a genuine person and he had no clue about what my thoughts are and also he wasn’t aware of my thoughts prior to knowing me either. This actually made a curiosity in me and then I managed to get friendly with another person too. Surprisingly it was the same thing with him and non of them are aware of my thoughts. Looks like not even people in my apartment are aware of my thoughts. Which means people in radio stations shouldn’t aware of my thought. I feel so glad that I understood this and I actually don’t live in fear anymore. They still respond to me making me believe that they could read my mind but I’m not afraid for this experience now, cause I understand that they are not aware of my thoughts but like you said they respond to my thoughts in a strange way. So It’s a great relief to at least know this. Thank you so much for your post again.

I actually don’t know if other things that you are telling about the technology is true or not but that also could be true because I don’t see any other possible explanation for this. I like to hear what others are saying about this. I’m also thinking why doctors have failed to understand the reason behind thought broadcast delusion up to this day. I don’t see this as a mental disorder anymore. I have been searching the Internet for quite sometime now to find the reason behind this and I have never seen any other person explaining this in the way that you have explained it here. Doctors simply taking it as a mental illness and they don’t understand our experience rather thinking us as mentally ill. At least now I understand the reason and if you know how to get rid of voices please do share it with us too. Thanks again. I think you all should try and see whether it’s the same in your case too."

My original post:

"Dan wrote:

"Actually for thought broadcast delusion, best thing you should is to understand that no one can read your mind or understand your thoughts. However, due to the events that is taking place or due to your own experiences your logical thinking mind will convince you surely that others must know your thoughts. At certain times, you yourself would think of particular topics/things and see whether others would respond you and when this happens it will further convince you that others can read your mind or understand your thoughts."

"Only way to get rid of this way of thinking is to talk openly/directly with the people who you think that can read your mind. As I said in my main post, asking this would be pretty odd to you but again trust me asking this and understanding that others are not actually aware of your thoughts but they simply respond to your thoughts without they even knowing will save your life. Things that they reply to your thoughts are coming to them out of the blue without they even knowing, they get thoughts and they simply talk about it. However, these things always will have a meaning to your current thoughts or your actions, which is why your logical mind thinks that they somehow know your thoughts or understand your thoughts. They will sometimes, smile at you, laugh at you, give gestures etc... to convince you that they really know or aware of your thinking or thoughts. However, in reality they know nothing. These responses or the words coming out of their minds would align with your thinking, that's why your logical mind always make you to believe that they know your thoughts. Even if you ask directly from them "if they know your thoughts" still you will face things to convince you or they would respond in a way to convince you that they know but they don't acknowledge it or they simply lying about it. But only way to get out of this would be to talk to them and understand that they don't actually know your thoughts, there actions, words are aligned with your thoughts/actions giving you an impression that they know your thoughts"

"You will meet people who respond to you thoughts everywhere. Sometimes, this can be your neighbours, when you are in a coffee shop, in a library, people in television programs, radio stations, while you are shopping, in the streets etc... you name it. You will meet people who respond to your thoughts everywhere. So the bottom line is they know nothing about your thoughts, these responses which aligns with your thoughts are coming to them out of the blue, which convincing you."

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In response to: How I came out of the delusional way of thinking without medication - An experience of an individual!

Re: How I came out of the delusional way of thinking without medication - An experience of an individual!

So all I want to say is that non of these cases are due to issues in our brains. There's a satellite grid which covers the globe to give us these kind of experiences and the capability of this system is highly sophisticated and a normal person cannot comprehend even.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmkdEKazZnI

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Re: How I came out of the delusional way of thinking without medication - An experience of an individual!

No @Dan She was simply guessing & incorrect. She was also fond of corporal punshment & the wooden spoon.

I prefer to provide support and let the truth emerge. I know I was accused of untruths because she was confused.

Stress & anxiety can give rise to tics, strains and eye flutters.

Note I was abandoned at 6 and left to look after a 4 and 2 year old. When a state ward I was diagnosed & treated for a turn in the eye which was genetic.

Not sure if we have had a similar conversation before.

There are a few different languages in your video.

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Re: How I came out of the delusional way of thinking without medication - An experience of an individual!

Hi @Dan

I find your arguement irrelevant.

We call you a non believer.

I am not going to try to convince you of anything.

I respect that you do not believe.

I also know that you have not had the same experiences as anyone else.

The fact you are using theoretical examples shows your finite ability to discuss the topic reasonabley.

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Re: How I came out of the delusional way of thinking without medication - An experience of an individual!

Your tone implies you are somehow superior.

That your beliefs or non beliefs are somehow ultimatley and absolutly correct.

Respect these are your beliefs and opinions and not others.

Each to their own.

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Re: How I came out of the delusional way of thinking without medication - An experience of an individual!

@Appleblossom, Now only I read your previous post clearly. Yea, you mentioned that her assumptions are wrong. I was actually referring to the people who has developed those kind of skills, specially people who handle criminal cases in FBI/CIA etc.. they understand what kind of facial expressions that people give when they lie but I still don't think they can catch these guys 100%.

@metamind If someone argues against my view, I never try to blame them and say they are non believers or give a bad response to them, instead I try to talk to them back with logic, giving them explanations and show them why theose views must be false. So if you or anyone here thinks that my view is wrong, please feel free to bring, so people could read all these explanations and come to a conclusion by themselves about all these. So hope you would not take this in a way that I'm disrespecting your views.


These are the issues that bothers me about views such as yours and I know you are not the only person who thinks in that way.

1). If others could read the mind of a delusional person how come doctors give medication to the person who has this delusion and stop others mind reading ability? Doctors managed to cure many people throughout the history by giving medication to delusional people.

2). Why people never had these abilities prior to 17th century?

I also pointed out so many other questions which goes against these type of views, if you have anything to say about it. Please feel free to do so.

I actually I don't have any superior tones, I think you are thinking in that way because of the things that I mentioned which goes against your view. All I have been trying to do was to help people to come out of these situations by letting them think in a different way. I'm glad to see the post made by that person saying that he was managed to come out of thought broadcast delusion without taking any medication.


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Re: How I came out of the delusional way of thinking without medication - An experience of an individual!

@metamind Each to his own

is a good way of thinking

problem is we live in a world of billions of people and so there all the finer issues to sift through.

Yes @Dan There are particular, personal, family, and social issues involved. I had a lot of FBI & CIA conversations with my exhusband 30 years ago. Eventually he was able to let go those obssessions and focus on Martin Luther King ... which was a more hopeful one. I tried very hard to bring him into an Australian consciousness as he migrated from states ... but it did not register much with him until about 25 years later ... when he got citizenship ...sometimes we take a lot of time to grow up in some areas of life.

Governments do definitely exert influence on our lives.

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Re: How I came out of the delusional way of thinking without medication - An experience of an individual!

@Appleblossom hope things are going fine with you now!

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Re: How I came out of the delusional way of thinking without medication - An experience of an individual!

Thought you should watch this

https://youtu.be/8YWiR6TRr4o

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Re: How I came out of the delusional way of thinking without medication - An experience of an individual!

Thanks. I actually watched so many video's showing phenomenas like Robert Sheldrake is pointing out. I understand how sophisticate this hidden technology is. It can also map one person's personality to another person and use once body just like a car that drives by the software. Some delusional people think that their Gods or they consider themselves as jesus. All these are due to this hidden technology that people don't understand. So things that Robert Sheldrake pointing out are just some other tricks that they do with this system.

If those assumptions made by Robert Sheldrake are right, how can you explain this:

Now if our mind works in a such way that it expands and read other people's mind, then how come doctors are giving medicine to a delusional person and stop others mind reading ability?

The other question is, why thought broadcast delusion wasn't there prior to 17th century? If you are taking Robert Sheldrakes experiments to prove your point, then these abilities of humans should be there even prior to 17th century.

I'm not sure whether you have heard of cases like in multiple personality disorder (dissociative identity disorder ) that their alters are able to speak in languages that they have never learnt of. Some people have more than 100 alters in their body. These are all software driven personalities. Now doctors assumption is that our mind is splliting if childrens get abused. However, after 18th century only we see multiple personality disorder.

Following will be some interesting facts,

Just like voices, Interest in Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD) started in Europe during the late 1800’s”

"Since the 19th century the number of identities has gone from 2 or 3 to greater than 20, sometimes reaching 100.” - Interesting now what’s happening to our mind ? Number of identities are getting increased… - http://www.personalityresearch.org/papers/cherry2.html

"19th century saw a number of reported cases of multiple personalities which Rieber estimated would be close to 100.” This is the total number of reported cases. - http://neuroclusterbrain.com/multiple_personality_disorder_history.html

“There were 200 reported cases of DID as of 1980, and 20,000 from 1980 to 1990. Joan Acocella reports that 40,000 cases were diagnosed from 1985 to 1995" - Only 200 number of total reported cases of MPD/DID as of 1980. - http://neuroclusterbrain.com/multiple_personality_disorder_history.html

Are we coming to a conclusion that children never got abused prior to 17th century? But people abuse child only after 17th century so mind started splitting into personalities to face these difficulties?

On top of mind started having abnormal abilities like talking about other languages without even learning? You find this in people with MPD/DID or take for example foreign language disorder. They go accidents coming out of a Coma and then suddenly start speaking in languages then they have never learnt in their lives. This is actually due to remote stimulation of brains through satellites and uploading information to the brain by creating the right set of neurons in our brains. When they stimulate a brain while a person in a coma they are not aware even if our brain gets externally stimulated. This is why you have never seen a normal person suddenly saying I understood few more languages now. Cause if they stimulate a normal person's brain, they will perceive these stimulations.

http://www.pimsleurapproach.com/resources/language-research/special-needs/foreign-language-syndrome/

Only thing I hope is that people will wake up and understand this!

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Re: How I came out of the delusional way of thinking without medication - An experience of an individual!

By the way for the benefit of people who are suffering I thought I should post let you know the following as well.

I tried to make some comments about this technology under Eleanor Longdon’s Voice hearing TED talk and these are the conversations that I had with them. They are not allowing me to post a link even under the comments of the video. They are afraid for an unknown reason and give various reasons which contradicts one after another?

This is the link to her TED video,

https://www.ted.com/talks/eleanor_longden_the_voices_in_my_head?language=en

After they deleting my initial comment this is what I got from them,

Hey Dan,

Thanks for writing in.

We ask our moderators to remove anything that violates our Terms of Use or is outside of a talk’s topic. As your comment is a bit off-topic/inappropriate it has been removed. If you could please consider rewriting your comment in a way that is directed more at the specific topic of the talk, we’d love to have you be a part of the discussion.

Please feel free to check out our How-to guide for more information about how to avoid comment removal:https://www.ted.com/participate/discuss/how-to-guide

All the best,

Dan
TED Support

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I sent this to them,

TED removed my article and this is the conversation I had with them,

Dear TED Converstaions Team,

Thanks for the notification. May I what section that I have missed
according to your guidelines? And any suggestions to re-write this?

Thanks
Dan(Me)

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Their reply after days,

Hi Dan,

Thanks for writing in — my apologies for the delayed response!

Your comments were removed because using many postings to express a single idea is inappropriate for this platform. Exceeding one or two comments to express a single idea monopolizes the conversation and tends to stifle debate, not promote it. As the goal of our message boards is to host productive conversation and debate, we’d ask that you find a way to share a condensed version of your idea.

Thanks again, and warm regards,

Katie
TED Support

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Dear Katie,

Many thanks for your reply. Though you mentioned that “Your comments were removed because using many postings to express a single idea is inappropriate for this platform.” the response that I got from TED team earlier was the following,

“As your comment is a bit off-topic/inappropriate it has been removed. If you could please consider rewriting your comment in a way that is directed more at the specific topic of the talk, we’d love to have you be a part of the discussion”

Due to your earlier reason for removing only I requested to clarify what sections of my post that was going against your guidelines, so I was hoping to rewrite those sections and to re-post it. I try to convey this message to people around the world to understand what’s the actual reason behind voice hearing and to let the reader to look at these cases in a totally different direction and I tried to make this post twice in your site but within hours every thing was removed. Further, if you check the history of comments, you would also find that myself and also others has made posts one after another to express their views. I never encountered an issue like this before. Because of these incidences and now since your team is giving a different reasoning for the removal of my post, I feel like for some reason TED team is not letting people to understand the truth.

Kindly note that a condensed message of my post would not make any sense to anyone, therefore, to understand what I’m trying to explain to the reader, I had to make several posts one after another in a way that a reader could easily follow. Further, the post that I’m about to make will help millions and millions of people who are suffering from this and to let everyone to look at these cases in in a totally different angle.

I hope TED would help me to convey my message to everyone who are following this post and to understand the real cause behind this and TED has a genuine interest in helping people. If you still think any sections of my post needs re-writing, please do not hesitate to let me know, so I could make the appropriate changes.

Thank you and I look forward to hear from you soon and I’m awaiting for your approval to make the post and to help people around the world…

Kind Regards,
Dan(me)

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Their reply again,

Hi again Dan,

Thanks so much for your reply, and your continued patience. I apologize for the confusion!

My colleague, Katie, is with our comments team, here at TED. I’ve stated in a previous email, referring to the comment as being a bit inappropriate. This was caused by using many postings to express a single idea – under our terms-of-use, this is classified as inappropriate. Exceeding one or two comments to express a one idea monopolizes the conversation and tends to stifle debate, not promote it.

If possible, please try to re-post your comment into a single comment. Our moderators will look into your posting, and determine if this follows our terms-of-use set out for TED.com.

I hope this information is helpful! Thanks again, for your patience.

All the best,

Dan (TED)
TED Support

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But thereafter even if I make the below post they remove and now they don’t have any more explanation for removal either,

Dear All, This is the reason for Voice hearing,

"" /comments/4pnzkz/psychiatrists_are_being_deceived_an_insight_into/ (Removed the link due to saneforums rules but this was posted on reddit site you may google)

Even https://www.tinnitustalk.com site is not allowing me to post a link to my blogs or they are not allowing me to discuss about my Tinnitus incident Either. Are they running these forums to attract majority of people around the world deceive them and then they control what goes to the public? No one knows!

I also tried exposing this by posting on major conspiracy site called abovetopsecret, they closed my post suddenly saying for staff reviewing and never let me to open the thread again,

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1124617/pg5 (P.S admins: there are no personal information of people here)

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