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Dissociation worse with online everything

Dissociation worse with online everything

It's ironic to be writing this here; it's taken a while to get to it.

I'm able to use tech (including a tech role in the military), but I need real face-to-face interaction.

I was very uncomfortable with everything going to online connection in 2020; I managed but not like well people. I was well able to do the substance of my professional work, but got pushed out for seeking slightly reduced hours. (Later recognised as discrimination, but that doesn't get your job or health back).

I've known about my dissociation for a few years and try to deal with it practically. But my psych recently explained the depersonalisation and derealisation (again) in a way that helps me understand why online stuff doesn't feel real or 'safe' (I hate that word) to me. She said they don't tend to diagnose those when they're 'just' symptoms of trauma/ptsd unless they endure after treatment, which makes sense but also feels off.

I want to connect with real humans again but it's almost impossible. Thankfully I have my family - husband and two teens. I'm TPI'd out of work (although the military and super TPI was an administrative thing that never should've been total or permanent). I played soccer but have heart and cognitive/cognitive dissonance troubles with that. I do volunteer work but it's the off-season for that and I can't handle the pace of that very well.

When I do see people - which I sometimes still do - I'm just awkward to be around. I say too much mental health stuff, I don't think fast enough to keep up normally (and dissociate/lose track/forget too much), I sway and have vocal tics, I'm cranky about too many things, I forget things about other people so I know it seems like I'm self-centred in conversation, which I don't want to be/seem. I can be fun and kind and pleasant at times, eg for short periods or for a structured thing like sport or a game.

I'm waiting on another depression treatment, but the DVA approvals adds even more time to the wait for that (on top of literally years of waiting for other treatment, the delays and uncertainty and having to fight for it made my conditions so much worse).

I want to meet people irl who have had significant trouble with dissociating and gotten past it. (But not in DBT language). I don't like that help is channelled via online forums like this where we're literally not allowed to meet or know the real person, just 'anonymous for your safety' - which is the exact opposite of what I need. (I have previously enjoyed a mums group that met irl and had national online conversation, which was the best of both worlds). I joined a national online book club with local meetings but that just hasn't gelled (and as above, it's very hard not to seem awkward). I'll probably start study again this semester, but almost everything is online - I can deal with the content being online but need human interaction for exploring ideas.

Does anyone else get how dissociation is worse via tech?

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Re: Dissociation worse with online everything

Hello @Magpie2

Even thought I have only just joined, I fully believe tech is making it harder for people with mental health issues, I think we need more face to face time with people. human interaction is something we are built for, and living in a remote rural area, on a property 30 minutes from the town makes the whole be disassociated harder.

It is sad when the two times a week I go to town, my interactions are shallow in they are the young lady who makes my coffee, the young lady who does my scripts at the chemist, the ladies the bank, the guys at the post office (I open a PO Box - so I could get my mail and parcels twice a week and have contact with others), the receptionist at the GP clinic etc. I know them by name and they know me by name, but a quick hello how are you just doesn't do it somedays.

To make things harder due to my parole conditions I cannot go to lots of places unless I have scheduled in advance, another way of the system helping me be disassociated in life.

Wishing you well.

@troybeez2390 

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Re: Dissociation worse with online everything

I agree totally. I tried to meet with likeminded Bipolar but told that online is the only way to go if I want to reach out through the formal group. It's really hard to join the lines. I don't have a solution but I think you never know where life takes you and you may come across someone likeminded just by chance. For me that's been over the phone when I needed someone trained. I know who not to trust and that is the government health (in my state). But I keep up the good fight. I hope you find what you need and remember purpose and reason is important.

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Re: Dissociation worse with online everything

Thanks for responding Troy. I was meaning dissociation as a mental symptom of separating from your body in the moment (most people do it some of the time, eg when we're doing routine things like walking or driving to familiar places on 'autopilot' but it's also a problem of ptsd etc) as well as the problem of it being hard to find interactions that are actually socially connected. I hope you find good moments with good people near you.

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Thanks for responding.

Govt health in my state are pretty good as individuals but a terrible system - and you never know when you're going to encounter one of the good nurses/doctors or one who will put you through the wringer based on two minutes of talking and ten assumptions they pulled out their... ear. :(

I'm sad that you're in a similar situation, but appreciate your response to confirm it's not just me, it's all I can ask for here.

It's like that 2020 bs of 'we're all alone together' :( Tech has taken over human connection completely :(

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