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Just need some guidance/advice

Just need some guidance/advice

Hey,

I don't have anyone to ask advice on the following situation which is why I am posting here.

I am an adult and I live with my landlady. Recently I felt a lack of respect from her. I have my own bedroom and my own bathroom and it is the only bathroom with a bath tub. I found out that she had used my bath tub because of the smell (from the bath salts she used). I kindly asked her to not use the bathtub without letting me know first. She said she only use that one time. Anyway that was fine.

Just recently when I have been watching TV in the living room which is a shared space she would ask if she can watch the TV while I am in the middle of a show. So I would pause my show so she can watch hers. Also, just for context I am extremely considerate of her and I have a habit of people pleasing. I try to never watch the TV for too long, make noise etc.

I am planning to tell her next time to wait until I finish watching as I find it quite disrespectful. I want to know what your thoughts are and how you would handle it.

P.s. I find this whole situation extremely triggering because I was severely abused by both my parents and that led me to let people walk all over me.

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Re: Just need some guidance/advice

Hello @Margo209 and welcome to the forums! ✨

I'm glad that you have found this forum and that you've felt able to post and I do hope that you will feel the support of the community during this time. Feel free to Introduce yourself here if you haven’t already!

It sounds like your current living situation has been a bit tense and you are working on navigating some of those difficult conversations with your landlady. Figuring out how to live in a shared space with people is not always easy and it sounds like you have noticed yourself letting people walk over you in the past, so well done for taking this step to try and do things differently moving forward! There are some tips on assertiveness from BetterHealth that we will link below that might be a helpful starting place when thinking about how to have this conversation:

https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/assertiveness

Take care! 🍁

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Thank you. I just checked the article but it doesn't guide you on how to be assertive. It just talks about the benefits of assertiveness.

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Hi @Margo209

I wanted to pop in and say...

I know how this feels and how triggering it can be.

In 2023, I moved interstate from my home state and moved in with a friend, who had recently moved as well. I hadn't known her long and I was grateful she gave me the opportunity and the time to find my feet in a new State.

It didn't go well from the first day. I would crack a joke and she would instantly be reactive and accuse me of trying to hurt her on purpose. When ever I did something she didn't like - even down to using the wrong serving bowl - she treated me like a child and berated me for it. It began to feel as if I couldn't do anything right.

I started to withdraw because this hit on certain triggers from my childhood and I remember it making me feel so small. I went to work, kept to my room when I was home and stopped talking to her beyond the "hi, how was your day?" conversations.

She started coming into my room while I was at work, turning off my internet and touching my things. I started making friends and doing things with them, like going to the movies, and she started accusing me of leaving her out on purpose, specifically to hurt her.

One day - I won't tell the whole story - but my car battery died and I had to get to work, so I asked a neighbour to jump start my car. Because of where the car was parked in the driveway, he had to drive on her lawn to do it. She stood at her doorway swearing and threatening me. I got my car started and left, but I was afraid to come home.

She started to treat my dog unkindly, and make threats about putting her outside and leaving her there and if she ran away, she ran away. When I tried to explain how important my dog was to me and how it made me feel, she accused me of using my mental health as an excuse

I tried to rebuild the friendship - inviting her out to dinner, to see a movie, but she conveniently forgot each and every time and didn't show. She started to play games like hanging out with my friends and they started to not want anything to do with me, or going out with them while I was at work, and then making sure that I knew or saw them out and knew that I was alone and had no one.

On Christmas day, I didn't want to stay at home and miss my family (I was terribly homesick) so I started to make plans to go to the RSL's Christmas celebration. But I changed my mind because I didn't want to start something at home. I knew she would accuse me of leaving her out, and I didn't want to leave her to celebrate Christmas on her own. But she got up on Christmas Day without a word and left the house. She sat on her own, in her car in a car park all day. I sat at home on my own, feeling so small and insignificant and feeling like a bit of a fool because I had stopped myself from doing something for me, to be kind and empathetic to her.

When I finally got the courage to stand up to her, it didn't go well. She told me that I was no longer wanted or welcome in her home. I told her that we were no longer friends and once I'd moved out we were done! So, I made moves to come back to my home state and within

I would cry every single night.

The day that I packed my things and my dog in my car and left, she refused to let me back into the house to get the last few things that I owned. I haven't heard from her, or from my friendship group since. They unfriended me on Facebook and I blocked her.

The advice that I was given, in trying to have difficult conversations in that situation was to start with how the behaviour was making me feel, what impact it was having on me. And that removes accusation, and is hard for the other person to refute. It's also important to have those conversations while you're regulated and not in fight or flight. So, taking some time before reacting or responding is important.

Setting boundaries is also important. Setting and communicating those boundaries. Then Letting Them show you with their reactions and behaviours whether they respect those boundaries and whether they respect you. From there, you can make the decision about how you want to proceed and whether it's something that matches your values or goes against your values and if it's something that you want/need in your life.

Hope that helps a little.

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Hi there I would suggest you need to talk to her NOW....

And ask WHY she has suddenly changed behaviour?

My last housemate used to do similar things, he was autistic and he liked creating conflict. In his reality he only knew how to be irritating and he used this to get attention. He had no interest or ability in beaing constructive/positive because it used energy - he only wanted to create conflict and in his mind getting negative attention/having power over me was his only method of interacting.

I moved out very quickly and it has taken 2 years to recover mentally from living with this person [edited by moderator]. Home is a safe space I would suggest this woman has boundary issues and you need to define boundaries with her and prepare to move out if she can't control her behvaiour.

I have found that many people [edited by moderator] cannot and will not control their behaviour, they tend to make their problems everyone elses' problems, and then "nobody has rights" except for the most antisocial person, which is a horrible way to live.

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I can see how this would be difficult and triggering.

Something that has helped me has been practicing communicating assertively.

There are some good resources online from This Way Up (part of their stress management program) which help you practice this skill.

It can certainly be uncomfortable to start communicating assertively at first but it has definitely helped me - at work, in social situations, with social anxiety in general, and with dealing with issues between myself and others.

It breaks down different communication styles and offers clear guidance on how to communicate more effectively.


Communication Styles

First, you need to figure out how you generally communicate. There are four typical communication styles:

Aggressive


People who communicate aggressively express their opinions forcefully and rudely, and dismiss others’ feelings and wishes, or regard them as not important. They often get their own way, but hurt and alienate others.

Passive
People who communicate passively do not generally express their opinions, wants or needs, defer to others, and often apologise unnecessarily. They can feel hurt, unimportant, and resentful, don’t have their needs met, and may have low self-esteem.

Passive-aggressive
This style involves being indirectly aggressive, for example, agreeing to something you don’t want to do in an annoyed tone of voice or using sarcasm ineffectively. People who use this communication style might get their needs met, but will often irritate others or be seen as manipulative.

Assertive
People who communicate assertively express their opinions and feelings respectfully, make their own choices, and allow others to make their own choices. They usually have their needs met, get along well with others, and have healthy self-esteem.


Assertiveness Is Effective

Assertiveness is generally the most effective communication style, but that doesn’t mean you need to be assertive in everysituation. Sometimes being passive (e.g. agreeing with your boss) or being aggressive (e.g. fight back when you’re in danger) is appropriate.


How Do You Communicate?

Ask yourself the following questions:

  • What style of communication do I usually use (passive, aggressive or assertive)?

  • How does that tend to make me feel?

  • Do I want to communicate in another way?

We all communicate using these different styles at times, and we’ll often act differently depending on who we’re talking to. But, if you use the passive and/or aggressive styles of communication more often, you might find it harder to get on with other people.


Accepting Being Assertive

Some people hold unrealistic beliefs about assertiveness, without even realising it. It’s important to remember that:

  • You don’t have to always agree with your friends to be a good friend (in fact, often people prefer honesty!)

  • You don’t have an obligation to agree with or say “Yes” to people

  • You don’t have to offer reasons or ‘excuses’ for saying “No”

  • Your needs are as important as other people’s needs

  • Saying “No” to something means saying “Yes” to something else (like self-care)

  • You are allowed to say, “I don’t care”, “I don’t want to”, and “I don’t know”

  • People can’t read minds so they won’t know what you are thinking unless you tell them

  • Being passive is not the same as being humble

  • Being aggressive is not the same as being confident

  • Everyone has the right to say “No”

  • Saying “No” does not mean you are being hurtful or selfish


Tips for Communicating Effectively

You can use the following guide to speak assertively:

  1. Say what the problem is and how you felt about it (use ‘I’ statements)

  2. Say what you would like them to do about it

  3. Say what the consequences will be


Some Key Things to Remember

  • Be specific. What exactly is the problem?

  • Talk about or propose a solution. What exactly do you want done about it?

  • Be objective. Tell the person how you feel and why, remembering that you have the right to express your feelings.

  • Remember that they don’t have to do what you want, but it’s important that you know that you have the right to an opinion as well.


Example 1

If your co-worker often makes decisions about important projects that you’re both involved in, you could say the following:

  1. I feel confused and disrespected when you don’t consult with me on projects.

  2. In future, I’d like you to talk through the projects with me.

  3. That way, we’ll be on the same page in future, which will lead to better quality work.


Example 2

If someone says something rude to you, like, “You don’t know what you’re talking about” you could say the following:

  1. I felt dismissed when you said that I didn’t know what I was talking about.

  2. I don’t want to be treated like that in the future.

  3. If you can respect my opinion, even if you don’t agree with it, we will get on better.


A Note on ‘I’ Statements

Using statements that begin with ‘I’ (e.g. “I don’t want to go out tonight”) tend to be better received than statements that begin with ‘you’ (e.g. “You know I’m tired and want to stay home tonight”).
‘You’ statements often make other people defensive, meaning that they will be less likely to listen to you, or change their behaviour.


Practice Example

Think of an example where you’d like to communicate effectively with someone. What could you say to them?

Problem: _____________________________________________
I feel (describe how you feel): _____________________________________________
When you (describe the other person’s behaviour): _____________________________________________
I would like (describe what you would like the other person to do or say): _____________________________________________


Source: thiswayup.org

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