Life can be a Pain

Or to take time to talk all these things through properly.-- I agree @Appleblossom , been there xx

@Appleblossom My son whinges all the time about my products being scent free. He doesn't care and just puts gel in his hair and then complains when I can't have him in my car. My sister keeps buying him these products. One day i'm just going to throw them all out.

taking suplements without your body needing them can cause a bit of harm @Shaz51.

I agree we should always check with our doctor. And that goes for herbal remedies too. A number of them interfer with other meds.

Getting proper medical care is still an issue for me. Not something I take for granted and something that I have had to be smart about.

Eg One of the reasons I have found the forums so useful is that I get an idea of the level of care that others recieve and so I can then raise my expectations a bit. WHat level of talking down to, getting the flick, being not fully believed and so things properly investigated ... all those things are big issues in my family and for me.

lol @utopia about sons ... my son tries to please gf .. who is anti smelly products .. she always comments on other people's products etc and has a finely honed nose so we hear a lot about it ...... so he has finally eased off on his use ... the thing is ... I have never smelt him be odorous ... not big in the exercise department ... I tried to explain that to him ... he does not actually need much ... anyway .. I guess it was supposed to be a sign of "care" the purchase of personal products ... maybe like white bread ... once was thought to be purer.

lol @Appleblossom. Male scented products are so much stronger than female scented products. It used to be i needed to avoid women when out and about. Now i need to avoid men and women.

My sons girlfriend came around yesterday morning. Because she staye at a friends house the night before, she forgot about the no smells policy in my house. She stunk out my sons room. Seriously zi would prefer if they had BO.

Now that you mention it I also think BO might be better. @utopia

Ah dear .... what would happen to capitalism if we stopped buying product.

What would happenn if we stopped buying products @Appleblossom

The world would be a better place

@Appleblossom@utopia

Hi girls - I love the subject - I think many women are slaves to the chemicals they use everyday without thinking most of them are unnecessary and wasteful - I remember good old Cold Cream that I used to clean my minimally used make-up and now - I don't wear make-up and stick to a hair-spray. male deoderant and ordinary soap - made of natural products - and feel overcome with other women's perfume at times - because I don't use these products I am unused to them and find them excessive

We would get used to BO as long as people washed often enough - I am not going to even imagine how often but one stink I cannot endure is someone who is living rough - it stirs memories of my son when he was living rough and I know homelessness is often not a choice - in my son's case it was but that was really overpowering

Awgh - we would probably get used to that too if necessary

I remember a exerpt from The Grapes of Wrath. The Okies were living pretty rough and it wasn't until they lived at the Government Camp that they notices they would "stink" if they hadn't showered - they had got used to themselvles and each other

Imagine - yes - think about it - if we did not by these products it could change the ecomony - I like to use the minimum - if necessary I could use less - if I was visiting someone and knew that like Utopia that the world was full of allergins I would not wear anything on my skin that would aggravate allergies - it's a rare but decent sign of respect

Yes Apple - we do need social interaction - we need to know what other people experience and the sharing of ideas is one thing that makes us unique among the great apes - and they have social order and disorder as well - but humankind need each other to help us find our place in society

All of this in half a day - wow - we can really move when we do open ourselves to share

Dec

Hi @Former-Member

Great to see you here - I was here for a few hours during the afternoon and didn't leave this thread so I don't know how things are going for you right now

How did it go when you went out for your Dad's birthday - I hope you both had a good time and your back pain wasn't to intense

Have you had results from your MRI yet? I am wondering how all that went.

Dec

Yes @utopia

I have been cleared by the Health Department to have injections for my back pain if it is bad enough - after a couple of days feeling stiff with my tight and tangle facets joints dragging against each other everytime I reach - it's amazing how different I feel tonight

When you were talking around your son's allergies it reminded me about my son's - severe skin reactions are really nasty

My son was allergic to the Pertussis Anti-Toxin - the day after his first injection I took his wet nappy off first thing and it was really bad - and I took him straight to the doctor and I was told he could not complete his whooping-cough shots. That meant that he was vulnerable to whooping-cough and I had to go back to my doctor in a different suburb when he was little and get a letter so he could attend kindergarten - I have mostly held the opinion that vaccination is essential for people who can endure it - I have been vaccinated against whooping-cough in my old age - I would not enjoy having that childhood disease and I never knew until I had great-grand-children that I could catch it from any child who was not covered -

I do not hang about looking for things I am not vaccinated against - I have even been vaccinated against shingles - I didn't know about that until my doctor told me - and pneumonia and I will be having the pneumococcle shot as soon as it has been a reasonable time since my flu shot

Some of these I have had to pay for - others are free - and I have this strong interested in not getting sick and enough fo this subject

Back to my son's allergies - he was allergic to oranges and orange juice - I never gave them to him but he went to day care two days a week and people would give these to him and he was a bed wetter - it didn't matter how early I was up he would have recently wet the bed and in a short time he was crying with a burning rash where his urine has touched -

It's amazing that an adopted child should inherit all sorts of allegies from his adoptive mother - not the same ones but allergy prone yes - and red food - even if I peeled a red apple it set him off into a rage - I moved him from one day care situation to another until he went to kinder and there was two of them until he went to school and people stopped handing out fruit

Those were tough days - and I needed him to be in day care - I think now there would be restrictions about the workers giving a kid fruit he was allergic to - back then no -

My daughter hated forumula - she would suck at the bottle and often throw up - and she was slow at it - and she could manage the breast either - I was engorged and it was too hard for her in her premature state - long story short - I realised what was wrong when she told me she could handle her grand-children having fomula - it has a smell she couldn't bear and we add sugar to it was well and she doesn't eat sweet food - she started to thrive when she was having a bottle of milk straight from the carton -

wow - as mothers we do have it differently - no wonder things can be so tough at times and back in my day I wasn't thinking of returning to work - women must have it hard when they work full time and have one or more young children at home

There is so much expected from young mothers these days and I can't see an alternative - some women have to work and others want there career and I don't blame them - I went back to my career when the kids were at school - but for most women now I think they are caught between society and their children and the larger load of work at home

So many issues

Dec

What a rant!

Maybe I can find my soap-box and push it under the chair