This! This Is why this so great having this forum.

Hey, just wanted to add my 2 cents as someone who studies psychology. I do agree that some health professionals are not as tuned to the struggles of their clients, I would still give them the benefit of the doubt. Individuals are extraordinary at surviving, however I believe you seek professional help when you want to start living instead. Again its super nuanced, thou this is my general perspective.

Hello @PengTing

thank you for your input. I personally am a social worker and behaviour specialist. I haven't worked for two years due to injuries and life however I have been perplexed at the different engagements I get from various professionals. I have struggled with social workers wandering why they don't listen like I always did and then I realised one the systems are very different now but two some people just won't understand. You do find the treasures in there for sure. It's a mixed bag.

however I know how great it was for me to hear from someone who could say me too and when they talked I could actually hear yes they really are me too. It gave me some very practical tips and proof that you can make it through.

It sucks to hear you've had experiences like that. I commend anyone doing any kind of social work, I've heard and read so many stories of how difficult it can be. There's so many layers and the bureaucracy can get disheartening. I do also hope for a future where everyone is more in tuned with each other in mental health services. @Former-Member

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@PengTing wrote:

Individuals are extraordinary at surviving, however I believe you seek professional help when you want to start living instead.

I wish someone would tell the "professionals" that.

My therapists both declared that there was no hope of me having a worthwhile life. But even before they'd made that determination, they were never very interested in helping me get there.

And then, once my second therapist decided that I'd never get to "start living", she became obsessed with making sure that that revelation wasn't something that I'd discontinue my survival over.

IME, therapists aren't really interested in whether their patients get to live; their only preoccupied with making sure their patients survive.

Hey @chibam, thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences with the community!

Sorry to hear that you have been treated like this and it must be very challenging to cope with. You are demonstrating how brave and resilient you are by reaching out to your peers.

We believe that everyone has a right to recover and are the experts of their own experiences here at SANE. You are in a safe space to share your thoughts and feelings and get support for your experiences and challenges.

I don't think the way you have been treated is also the way most professional supports and services with treat you. I encourage you to keep trying to find someone in the community who treats you the way you deserve and expect.

Take care

RiverSeal

morning @Former-Member , @PengTing , @chibam , @RiverSeal

how are you all going today my friends

having lots of rain where i am

any plans for today

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@Shaz51 wrote:

how are you all going today my friends

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Cooking like a Thanksgiving turkey, @Shaz51 .😓

Thankfully, there's supposed to be a massive temperature drop coming through soon. We're supposed to lose about 15 degrees in one day.

Can't happen soon enough.

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@RiverSeal wrote:

I don't think the way you have been treated is also the way most professional supports and services with treat you. I encourage you to keep trying to find someone in the community who treats you the way you deserve and expect.

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While I can fault the bedside manner of my therapists, @RiverSeal , the fact is that 90% of why my therapy experiance was a disaster comes down to how the system is set up; not rogue therapists violating the norms of the system. Thus, I am quite sure that my therapy experiance would be effectively the same, even if I did go back into therapy.

At it's core, the system is intollerant of suicide, yet more willing to tollerate miserable standards of living. And it has an agenda to badger it's patients into adhering to these values; to badger them into preferring indefinite misery over death. You'd be hard pressed to find a therapist who does not adhere to this agenda.

And I have read countless pieces of testimony, both on here and in other places, that repeatedly state (in alignment with my own experiance) that therapists simply don't do anything to fix peoples' real-world problems. The system isn't set up for them to offer the real help that people need!

A while back, here on SANE, there was a 'Topic Tuesday' or 'Thoughtful Thursday' or something similar, that focussed on mens' problems, and you guys brought in an expert speaker to lead the conversation. And he basically told us point blank that: "The fact is, your all really on your own, because the government does occasionally set up programs to help with your various issues, but they give them like 5 minutes worth of funding, and then their gone before they've even really gotten established. So you shouldn't count on having any real help you can reach out to."

That's probably the most honest statement I've ever heard from an official source about the genuine availability of 'help' out there.

Sorry to hear that this is your experience @chibam. Please stay conencted with the Forums and the community of peers can support when you need. Take care RiverSeal

Howdy, doing alright, back at work today after a month and a half off. Was good to see co-workers again, just relaxing now from my shift and getting dinner ready. Wbu? @Shaz51