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Anonymity and agency in the AI era

Anonymity and agency in the AI era

This post might be in the wrong place.

But I'm concerned and want to flag something for the policy pundits.

I was posting on a thread using my smartphone when the new Google Gemini AI burst in uninvited and substituted its own screens and started talking to me. It wanted to take over and suggest input. I told it to fcuk off.

I feel threatened. My anonymity, autonomy and agency have been compromised. And I think it threatens the integrity of the forums too.

Please could a human reply to me. When I posted on the trauma thread a few days ago noone acknowledged me so I deleted the post after a few hours, when others had continued their conversation without me.

@rav3n

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In response to: Anonymity and agency in the AI era

Re: Anonymity and agency in the AI era

Hugs @Dimity ,

I am human. I'm not AI. I'm not a robot. I'm real.

I feel you. It sounds incredibly hard to feel threatened and unheard.

You deserve to be heard. I'm here for you.

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Re: Anonymity and agency in the AI era

Hello @tyme .

Thanks for replying.

It's scary to lose your voice. I'll investigate how to turn off Gemini. I hope it's not going to compromise online forums like this one.

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Re: Anonymity and agency in the AI era

Right on cue, my home WiFi just disconnected.

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Re: Anonymity and agency in the AI era

Hey @Dimity ,

I re-read your post a few times and I get it now.

I did read the google was raving about the new gemini, but because I'm Apple, I didn't get the invasive experience you had.

To turn off Gemini, this is what I just found:

  1. On your Android phone or tablet, go to gemini.google.com.
  2. At the top, tap Menu. Activity .
  3. Near the top, tap Turn off. Turn off or Turn off and delete activity.

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Re: Anonymity and agency in the AI era

Thanks @tyme . I just found that too. I also got other results suggesting Gemini continues to monitor other apps and conversations and will still retain conversations for 72 hours for analysis even if you delete your activity.

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Re: Anonymity and agency in the AI era

Arghhhh.... joys of the 21st century. @Dimity

Makes us all feel like we want to dispose of our phones asap.

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Re: Anonymity and agency in the AI era

Yep @tyme . I can't turn it off as that link only takes me to a sign in screen. The only thing in the menu is FAQ.

Perhaps it took me literally when I told it to fcuk off and uninstalled itself?

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Re: Anonymity and agency in the AI era

Clearly it's got it's own mind? @Dimity

It might come back to visit again tomorrow? I really don't know.

I don't have the slightest idea about Gemini AI

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Re: Anonymity and agency in the AI era

@Dimity

That sounds like a bit of a scary experience. I have an Apple phone so that hasn’t happened to me. I have just started experimenting with AI but it waits for me to ask it something

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Re: Anonymity and agency in the AI era

Yes very scary @Oaktree . And the context - trying to manipulate a post to a mental health forum - where you need to have your own voice - seemed to make it worse.

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