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BPD and relationships struggles

BPD and relationships struggles

Hi all,

This is my first time posting in a forum. I was diagnosed with BPD a year ago, and also have depression, anxiety and my suspected PTSD (My therapist said this but no formal diagnosis). At the moment I am doing CBT sessions and a DBT skills group, which has been challenging but good. As it says in the tittle, I was wondering if anyone else struggle with relationships. I know I struggle with interpersonal relationships for a couple of reasons:

1. I have low self-esteem. As a result, I tend to verbally rely on external validation from others. Recently, I had an argument with my housemate how she finds this tiring, which is fair. I know I should learn to validate myself, but it is really really hard. Recently I was talking to my therapist how I hate listening to my friends 'boast'/always talk so positively about themselves. My therapist pointed out that the irritation and discomfort I feel is because some people would then share something positive about themselves, or their own accomplishments in response to my friends 'boasting' but I don't. I feel like I am a horrible person. I should be happy that my friend was raised in an enviroment where they felt comfortable sharing their accomplishments, opinions and thoughts and feel secure in their self-image. Instead I want to tell them to shut up and hold them to my standards of impressive.

2. I have negative self talk. For me, I find that a situation will occur, and then I magnify it myself as negative thoughts swarm. For example, I had never load a dishwasher before in my life and I asked a friend to help me. I was handing things to her when she says in a snappy tone, "Can you not? When I load the dishwasher, I want to load the dishwasher". In response, my thoughts immediately go: 'I am an idiot', 'you can't do anything right', 'They hate me' etc. I then completely start sobbing to my housemates surprise. This is one example, but it commonly happens at work, and sometimes I will cry at work.

3. I self sabotage my relationships. When I am depressed, I withdraw completely from my friends and will just ghost everyone. Then, when I feel a bit better, I am left with anxiety about reaching out to the people I ghosted, so I don't contact them ever again. I also tend to be defensive and argumentative by nature.

4. I feel chronically empty/feels like there is not on single person who can truly understand me. I also feel like I am weird and that people don't like me. This means I really struggle with making friends and feel isolated. I also will often feel lonely in a crowded room and I struggle as I have no family: my Mum died when I was 10, my Dad left when I was 12, and my Auntie didn't want me to live with her so I have been independent from when I had just turned 17. My only family: a twin sister also has BPD but she experiences hallucinations and I am a support for her mental health. I sometimes get jealous at other peoples family situations even though you can't compare people situations.

So, as you can see from the above, I am not great at relationships for different reasons. I just feel like so many of these are my fault, and I should just fix these but I find it so overwhelming. My therapist explained that some of these issues stem from have negative 'core beliefs'. I feel like there is so much I need to change and it's hard to do show kindness to myself when I am the problem 90% of the time. I also struggle with abandonment issues, so whilst my interpersonal life is on fire and burning down, I feel like if I argue with people too many times, they will leave (which they are allowed to do). With this combination of things going on, I find it hard to be motivated with for change and feel hopeless.

I guess I just wanted to hear if anyone else struggles. Thanks for reading and I am sorry for the long post.

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@SillyGoose22 How’s things going for you?

sorry if I took over there. Not helpful. I hope you are okay

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Is there someone you can go for a short time, just to give you both some space @lostNclueless ?

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@Cleo2

This is a good suggestion however, I completely blank when listing any positives about myself.

Recently in the DBT skill group I attend, we completed an activity where you had 5 minutes to list positive things about yourself. To my humiliation, I couldn't come up with anything. I know that I must process some positive qualities, but I need to practice self kindness and try to identify some strengths before making that list lol.

Breathing before reacting to anything is a great way to slow down.

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Thanks for your reply @lostNclueless. I find it helpful to know there are some humans who understand the BPD battle and the ripple affect it has.

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Don't apologise @lostNclueless , I am glad you have shared. I totally relate to your post about not feeling like you belong. I am really sorry to hear you are at a low place. It would be very hard with a difficult home enviroment and feeling lonely.

@tyme I am glad you found a BPD therapist. Your comments bring me a small drop of hope.

The stigma with BPD is horrendous. I am studying Human Services at University (to become a social worker) and boy, is it depressing. We live in a Neoliberalism society which creates businesses and support services who are centered around achieving great statistics to maintain funding. Apart from resulting in Managerialism and short interventions, it increases how hard it is for people experiencing BPD to receive support. People experiencing BPD are seen to just take a 'huge' amount of time and 'allot' of resources for effective intervention. This is from a business perspective/stigma, I'm not even going into the stigma from the general society, and mental health professionals!!!

Part of my studies allows me to examine the academic research literature about BPD, and it is also depressing. My therapist did point out that the research is from a 'top down' approach. So of course people with BPD have a high amount of risk, is an apparent 'black hole' for resources, and have high rates of intergenerational trauma when there is limited support available. When I got diagnosed, I was sent home with a verbal, 'check out SANE.com' and nothing else.

I am sorry for the long rant. I am quite passionate about this subject and I have been neglected attention for nearly all of my life. I just want people to hear my thoughts so as an young adult, I tend to rant.

Thank you @tyme and @lostNclueless for checking in, and asking how I have been. I wasn't expecting for people to care. I feel frozen and anxious lately. I have allot of thing I need to do but I am frozen and procrastinating which doesn't solve the problem. I can't even bring myself to do a little bit/just start the tasks.

I have been able to do some of my hobbies which bring me joy (reading and drawing). I even went to an event where you come and draw a costumed live model. I had a fantastic time, even though I was anxious about going alone. I know it seems silly, but I was proud that I went without needing somebody to come with me.

I have also been having terrible nightmares lately (extremely gory or/and extremely anxiety producing or/and past memories which are sometimes replayed or changed). Is this a part of BPD? I seem to go through periods where I will get horrible nightmares for a few months and then they will lessen. Yesterday morning, I didn't talk all morning and was reeling from a bad nightmare. I don't know what to do.

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I feel nightmares come with the territory particularly when one is in “anxious mind.

Good on you for getting back into what brings you Joy! I was about halfway through reading this and was going to say so.
sometimes when one is low self care goes completely out the window

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Hey @SillyGoose22 @Cleo2

Interesting points there and I totally agree. Borderlines are seen to be real consumers.

At the same time, did we choose to have BPD?

Also, from my own experiences, if I didn't get the intensive therapy that I did, I would be consuming even more resources with my regular hospital admission.

Do they take that into consideration?

@lostNclueless , I'm sorry it feels so hard for you tonight. Is there anything we can do to make it easier to bear?

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For me, when selfcare went out the window, I realised I needed accountability. e.g. if I had an appointment, I had to be ready and get out of the house. @lostNclueless

Does this work for you?

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Hello @tyme @SillyGoose22 @lostNclueless . So glad to hear that I am not the only one experiencing these things. @SillyGoose22 - some positive traits about you is that you are honest and that you are passionate about social work and its limitations.

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Thank you. That's very nice of you to say @Cleo2. I hope you are alright @lostNclueless.

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