Titanic Minisub Disaster - Are We Changing The Standards On How To Handle Bouts Of Depression?

Hey @chibam ,

Sure sounds confusing.

From my point of view, it was 'Do what works for you.' There were times when distraction worked, but other times it didn't.

That's how I see it.

I wouldn’t read too much into the way people are reacting to the submarine disaster. A lot of people are being nasty to the families and insensitive about what happened because they were rich. In my opinion, it’s meaningless and should be ignored as much as possible.

There’s a lot of judgement, but it’s not a commentary on the way the person is coping, it’s a commentary on the person being judgemental about it.

Everyone copes differently.

I remember reading a novel called “Dying in the First Person”. In one scene, a character casts her mind back to her birthday one year. She bakes a cake. Her roommate yells at her for it, because he’s much more practical in his way of life. He takes the cake out of the oven.

She puts it back in. He says “bake bread for the homeless, not cake for yourself, you […] princess!” He takes it out of the oven. She took some of the dough and put it on his nose playfully and he didn’t appreciate it, he reacted violently.

She casts her mind even further back to a birthday she had in her childhood. Her father was great at decorating cakes, but he sucked at cooking. So he would bake her a cake, they would pretend to enjoy it for a few minutes and then they would have a food fight and then have some store-bought cake and coffee. It was horrendously wasteful (I would have done it a TINY bit differently LOL), but it was beautiful.

That scene really stuck with me, and it’s reminded me never to judge, in several areas of life.

Just because someone goes to a concert doesn’t mean they don’t feel love for their deceased father. We say that all the time, “it’s what he would have wanted.”

Very interesting @florencefifty ... first world problems you think?

I myself don't read much into it. I just have to make sure I'm on the right path.

@florencefiftyI can't help but feel that it's becoming so unsustainable trying to have a society, because everything you say and do has an impact upon others, and it's often not clear what it is that they actually want. Worse still, there are often multiple camps that often want vastly contradictory things, so it seems that no matter what you do, what you say, what you support, or what you abstain from getting involved with, your still hurting someone.

There is no consensus anyone on the definition of "right" and "wrong", so how can a society like this possibly function? How can we collaborate to accomplish anything, when we're all aspiring for a vastly differant outcome?

And where is the line between the rightfulness to be selfish, vs. our duty to serve others?

How do we resolve the conflict between our obligations to maintain absurd pretenses to appease others, and this apparent distaste the world has for dishonesty and phonyism?

I've never been able to figure out how to life in this world, and I only ever seem to incur more and more hatred and displeasure for these collective failures. It's almost certainly why I never get invited anywhere anymore, and it's certainly why that's an improvement over the bad old days when I was.

Don't get me wrong; I utterly hate being all alone, and I hate not having a busy social life with frequent engagements with a large pool of dear family and friends. But I need an environment that makes sense to me, and that I can intuitively navigate. A place where I'm an asset - and kindred spirit - to those around me. A community that I "get", and agree with.

I don't get this world. I wish someone would just show one brief sceric of compassion and send me home, once and for all.