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I posted for the first time yesterday. I'm doing it tough at the moment. I really want to leave, it's ok, I can't and won't, I have animals that need me, that have also suffered in life. Interesting that I value the health and mental health of my animals (I have a rescue dog that was abused, and I will not leave until he goes) that I feel for more than I feel for myself. I cannot leave, my partner lost an older brother to suicide before I met him, so that effectively rules out leaving for me, cos I cant leave him to suffer again in this manner. As usual, I'm at the bottom of my care list. I'm Jilly

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Hi @Jilly ,

I'm just reading through some posts, and wanted to check-in with you.

I'm sorry you feel 'silenced'. I, along with many others, can relate to having our posts edited. I was an active member on SANE before I became a peer worker. I also had my posts edited.

I guess it depends on what you are coming to the forums for as to whether SANE is meeting your needs. For me, I was isolated and silenced - a self-imposed silence. I knew I needed to start reaching out again, and that is why I started using these forums.

When it came to some heavy stuff, I sought help from my psychologist. Do you have someone you can speak to at this time?

In no way do we want you to feel 'unheard'.

Waiting to hear from you,

tyme

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Hi Tyme,

Thanks for your letter. I went to a psychologist on the 10 Medicare supported visits, as we couldn't afford it otherwise. I told her, in more depth, the things I told you, and her reaction was 'surely things weren't all bad'. So I didn't feel heard there either. My isolation (self-imposed or not) comes from the very things that have made me who I am, beginning in early childhood. I was taught that I wasn't a valued person, and it remains in my psyche now, and has been validated by all the things that have happened to me, and all the ways I've been treated for most of my life. I also think because I've always had really low esteem, that I may have taught people how to treat me, as I never expect to be treated well, or with respect. I was sick of being labelled and verbally put down by my mother, so I waited until I was 16, so she couldn't get the police involved, then ran away from home. My father was just an angry, distant person that lived with us, so there was no support there. After my mother died when I was 21, the abuser came into my life, and because I believed I deserved the treatment, I put up with it for 3 years. Part of the abuse caused me to become pregnant, and part of the abuse caused me to miscarry. When I finally escaped, I joined a fundamentalist church, (I will never set foot in another church as long as I live) which was also rife with forms of abuse, and I married the first person that wanted me (that's how I felt about myself, settle, 'cos it's the best it's gonna get). We moved to a very isolated property, no neighbours for miles, and the next few years were isolated. I suffered 2 ectopic pregnancies in the first year of our marriage, and went through 7 failed IVF attempts while there. The marriage ended when I read his diary (yeah, I know, but glad I did) and discovered how he really felt about me, but wasn't man enough to be truthful and let me go. So I moved back home, re-joined the church momentarily, and met my current husband. As the church was a fundamentalist christian one, they believed in old school marriage rules, and so we respected them. After we were married, it became apparent that my husband was not capable of normal marriage relations, and that's how it's been for the last 25 years. (platonic friendship) We had 1 IVF attempt in the beginning, instead of growing eggs to harvest, I developed ovarian cysts, which I have to this day. Then I went straight into menopause, and I was still in my 30's. IVF is a devastating process, and after each loss I had to go straight back to work and be confronted with pregnant bellies and babies. I stayed in my shell. I had a few good years in the early noughties, when acquaintances had no children around, and then the grandchildren began to arrive, and I couldn't relate to their happiness and full lives, when my own reality was so different. Despite how lacking things were in my marriage, he was and still is the nicest, gentlest person I've ever met and is my only true friend, but our friendship is complicated by what's missing, and by his slight autism, and his naivety renders him incapable of truly empathising with the 'lot' that has been and is, my life. Because we met later in life, we weren't as financial as our peers, and so embarked on some real estate reno's that were sending us in the right direction. 7 years ago, we found our beautiful home on an acreage in the bush, my father died at the same time, my brother (who is as injured as I am, but his injuries manifest in anger, hatred and narcissism, we won't ever see each other again) had to be paid his half of my father's meagre estate and we lost over $130k. After all our hard work and struggles, we were back where we started. That's when I finally cracked properly, and spent 2 years on the floor in tears and misery before I gave life one last shot and went to the psychologist that I mentioned earlier.

That's probably it, in a very compacted summary. Thanks for giving me the forum to say some of it. Really is much appreciated. Jilly x

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Oh my gosh, @Jilly , you've been through so much 😮

I am so sorry to read what you've suffered throughout your life 😞

I am so sad that the psychologist you went to said that "surely things weren't all bad". 😞


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I was taught that I wasn't a valued person, and it remains in my psyche now, and has been validated by all the things that have happened to me, and all the ways I've been treated for most of my life.


I am so sorry to hear this 😞

I want to also say that I was in a fundamental church for many years, and it did a lot of damage. They were especially cruel /ignorant when it came to mental illness. I am like you in that I never want to set foot in a church again.

I am also very sorry to hear about your grief with trying so hard to have children and not being able to 💔

I want to encourage you if possible to keep trying to find a good psychologist who validates your experiences of trauma. I have luckily found one, and it's resulted in a lot of healing from my childhood trauma. It will never been fully healed of course, as it's too deep, but a lot of progress has been made. I am not saying this in any way to make you feel bad, that your own experience of a psychologist was so bad. I too have been to quite a few that were bad for me, before I found two who helped. But I hope you won't give up completely on psychologists or counsellors because of that one experience.

Sending you virtual hugs @Jilly ...

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Thankyou so much for your heartfelt reply NatureLover,

I've said my 'stuff' now, had to edit it heavily, but it's sort of out of my system, even if just temporarily. We can't afford a psychologist, even with the Medicare supported visits, I mean last time I checked they were on at least $190 an hour. (ouch!!!).

Half of my troubles is that I can't talk about my 'marriage' to anyone, have never been able to, in order to protect my husband. (when we were first married, I used to go for a drive at night, just so I could scream) So the 25 years of swallowing it all up, and pretending it's all normal have taken their toll, along with everything else, leading up to that time, that I haven't been able to talk about.

One day, I won't be here anymore, and that's just fine, but I'll stick it out.

Take care beautiful, and thankyou for your support. Jilly x

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