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21 year old son with mental health problems

21 year old son with mental health problems

Hi, I am new to this forum and have joined because I am living with an adult child who has an undiagnosed mental disorder. He is 21 and not working or learning. He worked in a supermarket and saved over $10K. Since he left that job he has smoked dope, gambled most of the money, isolated himself from friends and basically allowed his dark shadows to control his life. Just recently he agreed to come to the GP with me and was prescribed anti-depressants and advised to get of dope as quickly as possible. He was with HeadSpace but felt that he was not getting anything out of the sessions so stopped going. He has agreed to see psychologist in our local area. I am very grateful for the services available to him.

I just don't understand his negativity. He is a young, good looking person with a terrible attitude to life. I woke up one night in a cold sweat thinking that something terrible must have happened to him that I didn't know about and asked him but he said 'no'. He dropped out of a TAFE course that he started when he left school because he basically couldn't handle adult education and taking responsibility for himself. I broached the idea that he may be suffering with ADD and he agreed telling me that he'd been researching why he felt the way he did.... lost, lonely, sad, a gumby (his words) and that ADD came up as a reason. He was seeing a kinesiologist over the course of a year while he was working and ultimately she told me that his belief system mirrors that of an alcoholic or drug addict meaning that his problems are caused by circumstances that are outside of his control and that he is a victim. That is certainly how he behaves.

He is self aware and is often researching why he feels like he does and has flagged the idea that he is a narcissist and may have an Avoidant personality disorder. His father and I are keeping a close eye on him and supporting him to the extent that he has a safe home, good food, parents who love him and will support him emotionally but it's hard. It's hard seeing him lay in bed all day, complain about life and not try. I have taken away the x-box controllers; I take away any dope or bongs that I find. I read the books with him that the psychologist has recommended and read other books from the library.

The thing he does that drives me mad is agree to do something and then at the last minute tell me that he didn't agree to it at all (avoidance.....or control?) I don't know. This weekend we booked to go away for 3 nights which he agreed to and now tonight he says he won't come. It's upsetting because he has a younger brother who wants him to come. My husband has said that if he doesn't come then none of us will go. I doubt that he will feel any sort of guilt about that. In fact I know he'll just say that it's not his problem. I imagine you're thinking why we would want to take a 21 year old with us anyway but with the way he is it would be irresponsible to leave him at home alone.

I have spoken to a few people who have said that 'it's a boy thing and he'll grow out of it'. I really do hope so. I don't know how to motivate someone who is so determined to live like a victim of his fears. I wonder if any of you have any thoughts, experiences or ideas.

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Re: 21 year old son with mental health problems

IYes, @Appleblossom ..... they are highly vulnerable, our teenaged children .... mood swings are natural to them at this age as the metamorph into the young adults they are to become.

Here is another image I like .....

It involves some clever photoshop work ..... but it shows them as vulnerable ......

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Hi Janie - I am new to this forum too. I have a 20 year old son who has just been diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder. My story is similar. He finished year 12 and couldn't find work. He started to get depressed, then the anxiety began. He had some anxiety issues when he was young but we thought he was ok. He lost motivation for life and turned to weed. He seen a Psych for 12 months and then attended Headspace. None of which helped. He has attempted suicide numerous times and in the last 4 months has become extremely violent with outbursts aimed at my husband and our home. He refuses to take the recommended medication and we are living in a nightmare. The Psych he sees now is good and patient, and we have done so much to try get him help. However if he does not want to help himself now,our hands are tied. We tell him we are here for him and will provide any help and support he needs, but he does not think he has a problem. He is young and good looking boy who should be out there enjoying life - he has lost his friends and rarely leaves the house. It's hard to watch him be so self distructive. I wish you good luck with your son.

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Good morning @Jenstar .....

While this is not my life experience, I hope others for whom it is their daily walk will confirm what I am about to put forward as an observation ....

As you read around the various carer threads, you may realise that there is something of a pattern of stages on the road to acceptance and recovery .... there appears to be the emergence of the mental illness, a battle with difficult and self-destructive beaphaviour patterns which impact the family / carers as well, but with faith, hope, perseverance and true grit, eventually some platforms begin to emerge ..... platforms where diagnoses are grudgingly accepted, medication is more or less taken, psychologist / psychiatrist appointments kept, and an uneasy status quo is established that allows a forward path to begin to reveal itself ....

The differences and complexities of each situation are too numerous to count, but one thing others of us on the carer's or self-care path with mi's can tell you is that it is a path better walked in company ....

Welcome to the forums .... you are amongst friends here who truly understand, and are available to walk along with you ....

Take care,

🌷💜 F&H

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Jenstar, suicide is my worst nightmare. Stay strong and supporting him and with time I hope that Faith & Hope's suggestion comes true.

Earlier this year my son and I had a verbal blew which stemmed from him refusing to make me a cup of tea. I accused him of having a problem with control (he never just makes a cup of tea, you have to ask several times or beg) and to go and stay somewhere else for the weekend and think about it. He carried on like a pork chop loading his car and telling me he wouldn't be back to which I said 'that's OK'. He then said he'd throw himself off a bridge and I said 'I rest my case'. You'd rather throw yourself off a bridge than make a cup of tea. He didn't leave, he didn't throw himself off a bridge, I don't remember if he made the cup of tea but he did throw his mobile phone against the wall and damaged the wall and the phone. Ultimately, he ruined the opportunity to be mature and considerate. He struggles so much with stepping up and doing simple adult things or even recognising the role modelling and opportunities we give him to become an adult and stop behaving like a spoilt child (which I don't think he was).

We've had an OK week this week. He helped his father do some sanding and applied for a job in a supermarket. However, he laid in bed all day today.

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Dearest @Jenstar

I'm thinking about you. My son at 25 years old, it was/ is a nightmare for the past 5 years. But my son's journey started from bad things happening to him as a young teenager.

1. There is always hope.

2. your boundries are very very important right now.

3. Support for you and your husband is the most important thing that you can do.

Ille just read what others have written. I apologise if I read arrogent or impatient....I am just on a lot of medication and am tired.......

Hello tp all, I LOVE reading your messages

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We've had an interesting week this week. On Monday, I phoned a counselling service regarding a mentoring type program that they advertised. The lady sounded efficient and nice and that she would make an inquiry and get back to me but I have heard nothing so I'll ring again next week. My son went to a pub for birthday drinks for his mate. He phoned and asked me to pick him up just over an hour later. He was down. His friends have jobs or are at uni etc and he feels left behind. We talked about this and I suggested he just keep trying and not give in. I also said that instead of feeling bad about himself, he should feel happy for them because that what good friends do and it is far more positive than being jealous but I'm not sure that he 'gets it'.

The next day he stole money from my bedroom and gambled it. Probably the look on my face said it all but my only words were said calmly .. 'trust is on the line' and we talked later in the night about other things. His younger brother was away for the week on a school trip and I could tell that he was missing him. I've asked him if he'll come for a bushwalk tomorrow with the dog, his little borther and me and he said 'maybe'.

Thanks for your responses on this forum. I feel overwhelmed at times (usually at night) and it's good to write things down.

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@Janie

It is taxing and overwhelming .... I find the forums are one way to be looking after me .... it's a mixture of things - being able to vent, giving a receiving compassion and understanding, socialising with likeminded people ....

🌷💜

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A few good things have happend since I last posted. My son is going to stay with his cousin for 3 weeks to do some work. He appears to be pretty positive about it. Our next door neighbour who knows my son often offers him work to do at this place. It's his lovely way of trying to help. All offers have been accepted by my son but he has not kept his word and pretends to forget (or maybe he really does forget - still smoking marijuana). This week he actually did a job for the neighbour and got $50 for it. Within 5 minutes of finishing the job he went off to gamble the money. His behaviour really does drive me crazy.

He has seen a psychologist and wants to go back again. I am leaving it to him to make the appointments. He has been getting up earlier and doing things around the house a bit more. He has been actively trying to reconnect with his mates and has been to the gym with one mate and to another birthday party.

I've received some information about gambling to read. I understand that it is part of having an addictive personality. I'm still trying to understand why.

I hope everyone else is managing to keep calm and carry on.

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Dear @Janie

Yes, I'm personally staying calm.....my 22 year old son gives very mixed messages to me and I'm both overwhelmed and also annoyed at them.

My son does not live with me. I think that my son is manipulative. He wants me to drive him home pleading headaches ...I take him home, see his really messy and pigsty home and overgrown weeds...I say to him, if your going to smoke green and live like this...I'lle see you later then he calls and asks if he can stay the night and tells me that he's not smoking green.

grrrrr.

My husband just laughs and tells me to mind my own business and let him work it out so thats what I need to do but with a strong hand.

He keeps on calling me though.

I think that your son does forget.

They should know what smoking green does but ......what to do ? My oldest son is 26 years old and has quit all drugs and though he does not take meds, he canot handle the vioces so he sees a Psychotherapist and pays for it.

Take care @Janie stay in touch thanks for the great news on your son......

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they can be very good at manipulating, being seen to play the game.
enjoying himself with new people is a good sign though. just keep a keen eye out for drugs they are bad news
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