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Topic Tuesday // Tools for Advocacy // Tues 19th October, 7:00-8:30PM AEDT

Topic Tuesday // Tools for Advocacy // Tues 19th October, 7:00-8:30PM AEDT

Hi SANE Community,

This coming Topic Tuesday is all about Tools for Advocacy 🎉

At some point in our recovery journey, there are times when we self advocate for our needs, our wishes and our recovery goals. There might be people advocating beside us and empowering our voices (individual advocacy). And other times, we might be the voice representing the thousands of others going through recovery too (systemic advocacy).

Lived Experience advocacy is about empowerment and decisions/choices made with lived experience at the heart. In this discussion will talk about the skills for self advocacy, how we can empower others to self advocate, and how we can influence through advocacy for broader change in mental health services and systems.

There will be a twist for this Topic Tuesday, instead of facilitating the discussion, I will be joining as a guest 🙂 Before coming to SANE, I started my career as a lived experience speaker, advocate and representative. There are thousands of us using advocacy skills every day! We welcome all our forum members to bring your stories, tips and tools for advocacy to this discussion.

Please join us here on Tuesday 21st September 2021 from 7:00pm-8:30pm AEST to talk about skills for all types of advocacy, and how we can use our voice to empower and drive our recovery.

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In response to: Topic Tuesday // Tools for Advocacy // Tues 19th October, 7:00-8:30PM AEDT

Re: Topic Tuesday // Tools for Advocacy // Tues 19th October, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

@chibam I can completely relate to that experience, some of the language can go over my head sometimes or not feel relatatable.

A lot of the key National plans, policies, standards, strategies and the like can be found on the Department of Health and National Mental Health Commission websites. I find the most helpful parts are the Exectutive Summary, any companion documents that are made for service users, and looking at the lists of recommendations to get a sense of what is proposed in the document.

The National Mental Health Commission has a page for all their mental health reform intiatives, which I find is a helpful space to explore what's happening in mental health in Australia and see what opportunities there might be to link in with advocacy efforts. Often peak bodies (eg: Being and VMIAC) contribute to reform consultations 🙂

In response to: Topic Tuesday // Tools for Advocacy // Tues 19th October, 7:00-8:30PM AEDT

Re: Topic Tuesday // Tools for Advocacy // Tues 19th October, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Very true @chibam

I do find though there are strategies we can use to tell our story in briefer ways.

I once saw an advocate show three images.And they explained in about 2 sentences each how those pictures represented their journey and brought them to their current point of view. They they sent spent most of the meeting talking about the change they wanted to see but it was all informed by those 3 pictures and 6 sentences.

We don't have to give all of ourself away to prove a point. That was a difficult lesson for me to learn in my advocacy journey but it has definitley been an important one.

In response to: Topic Tuesday // Tools for Advocacy // Tues 19th October, 7:00-8:30PM AEDT

Re: Topic Tuesday // Tools for Advocacy // Tues 19th October, 7:00-8:30PM AEST


@cloudcore wrote:

Question 6. If advocacy isn’t successful, what can you do? @Daisydreamer


...and as a sub-question, how can you tell if advocacy is successful?

In response to: Topic Tuesday // Tools for Advocacy // Tues 19th October, 7:00-8:30PM AEDT

Re: Topic Tuesday // Tools for Advocacy // Tues 19th October, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Ohh that does help @Former-Member

Soo I have been kinda pushing instead of guiding

My husband loves to do photography, going to quiet spots , river or creeks xx

In response to: Topic Tuesday // Tools for Advocacy // Tues 19th October, 7:00-8:30PM AEDT

Re: Topic Tuesday // Tools for Advocacy // Tues 19th October, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

I love that @Former-Member thank you!!!!

In response to: Topic Tuesday // Tools for Advocacy // Tues 19th October, 7:00-8:30PM AEDT

Re: Topic Tuesday // Tools for Advocacy // Tues 19th October, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

@Shaz51 ,

Do you think it is about narrowing down your questioning so it is more specific for each area of functionality? I'm not sure of the exact circumstances surrounding MrShaz though.


what I'm saying, maybe breaking down future goals into:

- social goals

- cognitive goals

- physical goals

- skill development goals

Ask whatever is relevant. Even for me, if you say "what are your future goals?" I'd be lost too.

In response to: Topic Tuesday // Tools for Advocacy // Tues 19th October, 7:00-8:30PM AEDT

Re: Topic Tuesday // Tools for Advocacy // Tues 19th October, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Question 6. If advocacy isn’t successful, what can you do?

There are times when our advocacy doesn’t lead to the outcomes we are looking for, or services aren't hearing what we are saying. It might also be the case that we don't know if our advocacy is successful, or might take time to influence long term change.

1. Leaning on your peers and talking with other advocates to cope with the impact can be really helpful. It helps me to know not to give up hope, and know that there are other opportunities

2. Making sure the avenue for advocacy is the right one for the outcome you are looking for: A big part of advocacy is finding the right avenue for the impact you are hoping to achieve


3. Effective communication: Sometimes our points may not have come across, or the communication didn’t go the way we have planned. Make a plan for communication in advocacy, and brush up on effective communication skills to help you next time

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Tools for Advocacy // Tues 19th October, 7:00-8:30PM AEST


@Former-Member wrote:

We don't have to give all of ourself away to prove a point. That was a difficult lesson for me to learn in my advocacy journey but it has definitley been an important one.


I have the handicap of coming from a very stubborn and argumentative household, @Former-Member . Not helped by the fact that I ended up with a very argumentative and stubborn therapist, either. I once spent a whole hour session trying to argue with her that it was understandable why my mother was sad that she had to relinquish ownership of the house she grew up in - and got nowhere.

So I guess I have this pathalogical sense that, even if I present a 10,000-word thoroughly argued case, people will still not listen to what I have to say.

It feels like I just can't do eough to make my point.

I suspect that, ultimately, it makes me quite tiresome.

In response to: Re: Topic Tuesday // Tools for Advocacy // Tues 19th October, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Re: Topic Tuesday // Tools for Advocacy // Tues 19th October, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

You say tiresome, I say passionate @chibam

In response to: Re: Topic Tuesday // Tools for Advocacy // Tues 19th October, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Re: Topic Tuesday // Tools for Advocacy // Tues 19th October, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Thank you my @BPDSurvivor

Thay are good points and to answer these , I know the answers

" to retire"

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