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Topic Tuesday // Grief and Loss // Tues 3rd August, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Topic Tuesday // Grief and Loss // Tues 3rd August, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Hi SANE Community,

This fortnight we welcome Griefline as our special guests for a Topic Tuesday on Grief and Loss. Griefline support Australians experiencing grief, offering support through their helpline and online community.

Grief and Loss:

Grief is a natural response to the loss of something or someone important to us. At some point in our lives, every person will experience grief and loss in some way.

While we all experience loss and grief, the emotional and physical pain when we lose something or someone we love will be felt differently from person to person, and often from loss to loss.

This Topic Tuesday will hold space for us to discuss the grief and loss we have felt in our lives, how we have coped and what we can do to support a loved one who might be experiencing grief.

Please join us here on Tuesday the 3rd of August 2021 from 7:00pm-8:30pm AEST to follow this conversation.

Want to receive a reminder on the night? Hit the 'Support' button below.

New to the forums or want to get involved in this discussion? Check out the How To Guide for Topic Tuesdays.

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This topic is an important one for those who have experienced, might be experiencing or could experience loss. While each of us have different experiences of grief and loss, we want to make sure that this space is an open and respectful space to hold all of our experiences. Before joining this discussion, we would encourage you to familiarise yourself with the community guidelines so we can make this space as supportive as possible.

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Grief and Loss // Tues 3rd August, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

That is soo true @Daisydreamer , it happened to me and I could not attend , it feels like she is not really gone to me

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Grief and Loss // Tues 3rd August, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

It certainly has @Daisydreamer There was a memorial service in his home town later (which I attended) but his sister was delayed in her state and never made it and I didn't know anyone else there - it was also on my 50th birthday - so nothing was right about the day - just made it harder.

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Grief and Loss // Tues 3rd August, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

I don't know how to define either grief or loss. I just know they suck. My husband died, then 10 days later my Dad died. In that same year I also lost 2 Aunts which meant my mother, especially just went from one funeral to another.

The hardest thing about losing H was that he was the only person on this planet who knew what it was like to lose our baby girl.

I don't believe you ever really heal but there comes a time when you don't cry every day and occasionally there are some good moments.

Those who remember Port Arthur may recall the look of grief on Walter Mikac but even from that most horrible of days he recently told Anh Do that he knew he would find happiness again.

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Grief and Loss // Tues 3rd August, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

I understand @Zoe7

I have had trouble forgiving my cousin for his death - suicide. We emailed and for some reason my emails bounced. He could have told me how he felt - he didn't -

I'm not angry - I just have trouble coming to terms with what he did

It is really hard when someone suddenly died - there is no way to say goodbye as I was able to do with my father - this is so important - that can be the most important conversation we have.

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Grief and Loss // Tues 3rd August, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Hi @ShiningStar I am really sorry to hear that you feel those living with mental health issues are not fully supported in their grief and loss experience. Please feel free to reach out to our Helpline as our volunteer counsellors are so empathetic and non-judgemental - even just for a chat.

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Grief and Loss // Tues 3rd August, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

@amandaGL Question 3: What are some of the common experiences of grief?

For our community, what have been some of the physical experiences and emotional experiences of grief?

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Grief and Loss // Tues 3rd August, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

@amandaGL Question 3: What are some of the common experiences of grief?

Grief impacts us on a biopsychosocial level. Biologically we can experience it in many, sometimes frightening ways; heart racing, shortness of breath, nausea, sleeplessness, lethargy, changes to our appetite, lack of focus…even physical pain.

Psychologically, people often describe it as being on a rollercoaster of emotions; shock, overwhelm, confusion, helplessness, despair, guilt, rage, denial, depression, restlessness …and sometimes relief.

Socially we may become withdrawn and isolated, start avoiding people and places, change our faith and alter our beliefs or start obsessing over what we have lost.

Most people are surprisingly resilient even after the death of a loved one. Returning to a state of equilibrium within a few months of the death (though they may always carry the grief with them).


However, around 10% of people find the grief continues to be debilitating for more than a year after the loss, posing significant risks to long-term physical and mental health. This is complicated grief which often occurs after a traumatic loss such as a violent, sudden or protracted illness (sometimes also resulting in PTSD).

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Grief and Loss // Tues 3rd August, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Losing decades of your life to depression is a real reason for grief @Arizona

We grieve for things - people - life itself is so precious - losing so much of your life to depression is a serious loss

I am glad you are here - if you can't share perhaps you can read - I hope so

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Grief and Loss // Tues 3rd August, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Yes, I've experienced Grief & Loss many times - Too many times to count.

The Loss of my Dad 5 & 1/2 years ago, from Cancer - Was one of the Toughest.

Comments made to me at that time eg "You will always have your memories of your Dad" really hurt - Because "No I don't"...

Having had Long-Term Trauma (resulting Complex PTSD) during my entire Childhood & early adulthood - I have Generalised Amnesia.

So I have virtually No Memories of my Dad to Draw upon....

Just my last brief Phone Conversation with him.

I lost my Job last year, directly due to Covid - I have not been able to Obtain Employment, since then - That is a Big Loss, & Cause for Grief....

Adge

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Grief and Loss // Tues 3rd August, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

@amandaGL @Daisydreamer I tend to shutdown to any emotions - my way of coping ...that has been the case since finding my grandfather many years ago. The pain is just too much.

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