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Friendship as an adult

Friendship as an adult

Has anyone else got no friends? I left high school in year 11, and since then, I lost friends. I had a few after I left, but was in a very toxic relationship for 3 years, which I feel destroyed the remainder of those friendships. The last real friend I had was in 2012, and I ended up starting a relationship with her cousin and moved to his hometown, and the friendship I had with her ended then too, she cut off all contact with me. I have not had a real friend in 9 years, and although my husband is great, it is not enough to only have him. He is popular, always has people to talk to and meet up with if he wants to. I don't. I have tried to reach out to old friends with no luck, and have tried to make new friends with no luck. It has gotten to the point that I do not leave the house unless I have to, and I spend my days in the world of the internet to escape my feelings.

I can't help but feel that there must be something wrong with me, seeing as no one wants to be around me or have anything to do with me.

It would be nice to know that I'm not the only one who is like this, and in the same situation.

It is very lonely and isolating.

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Hi. You are definitely not alone! I don't have any good friends either. I find the relationships ultimately turn toxic, maybe it's my fault? Your words describe my feelings exactly.

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It is such a horrible feeling, and I have found the same too, when you do feel like you are getting somewhere with a friendship it turns toxic. I have one girl who I really thought was going to be a good friend, I would post on her facebook for her birthday, always try to keep contact with her, and then all of a sudden she ghosted me for like 12 months, then came back like nothing happened, when I asked her why she stopped talking to me and she jus blew it off like it was nothing, and then ghosted me permanently. I try to make friends at work, and it seems to go ok at first but then they get all cliquey with each other and put me out. At my last job they would make fun of me under the guise of a joke, and I ended up back on antidepressants. I would like just 1 genuine friend, someone to talk to and get out of my own head, and feel like I do matter as a person

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Re: Friendship as an adult

Hello Luna_Darkness

I'll preface my comment by saying that my response to you is fairly long. Your responses can be as long or short as you feel comfortable. I have tried to cover a fair bit of ground to offer you a framework on which ideas may become apparent to you. Also, please remember that information should be non-identifying.

There is so much I could say to you and the other people who have responded to your post. However, most of what I could say would be based on my assumptions about you and your circumstances. That is something I do not like to do because I may be way off the mark. And generalizations can be equally un-helpful.

Would you care to tell us a little about you; things that you do or have enjoyed, groups; crafts or other activities that you do or in which you have participated, hobbies, sports, and the like; is the town where you live large or small. Do you need and have transport to get to places that you might enjoy. Any contacts that you have tried to make in searching/seeking friendship. Any work that you do or in which you have been employed, or acted as a volunteer; helps to build a picture of “where you are at now”.

Remembering that the forum members are asked not to comment unless their comments are constructive;- whether you have or have had connections with any church, faith group, or religious organizations. A number of people who are active on the forum are actively involved in their church organizations.

Are there any barriers, difficulties, circumstances, or health issues that need to be considered in putting into practice suggestions that may be offered?

Even your age bracket can help with the suggestions that people make. I will assume that, based on leaving school at about sixteen/seventeen and not having friends for nine years, you may be in your late twenties-early thirties. As I said, please correct me if I am off the mark.

None of the details you give should be such that identify you personally, but with the details I have suggested, I hope members on the forum will be able to offer suggestions from their perspective. And what has or hasn't worked for them. Even “haven't worked suggestions” from someone else may work for you and vice versa.

People often become friends because they have been in or are involved in activities that they enjoy with others. The friendship evolves around and through their mutual interests. I believe, (what I am saying is) it is easier to look for interests and allow people to become friends “by association”. That way people, you and they, will know if someone meets their own "closer-friendship criteria", through observation, before they associate on a firmer basis. Needless to say, that takes time and investment of self to allow that process to happen. If you are enjoying an activity, whether that be sport, hobbies or work, the fact that you are happy in the activity makes you far more appealing as a potential friend.

Hoping you will share your thoughts and details (non-identifying) with us and I hope that you will find the responses of members on the forum to be helpful for you.

Best Wishes,

HenryX

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Re: Friendship as an adult

Hi Luna!

I completely relate with what you describe. My partner and I have frequently discussed how much harder it is to make new friends once you leave that school bubble. Meeting people is hard enough, but friendships take further time.

I would definitely recommend looking for a club you can join. Are you into fitness? You could join a gym and do group classes. I joined a pole fitness club and made some amazing friends for a few years, until I left the country and keeping in touch became hard.

Are you into crafts? I have been encouraging my mother, who doesn't know anyone outside of her job, to join a local crochet or 'knit and knatter' group.

Another thing I can suggest depending on your area is to look online for a women's group. My housemate decided to join a women's group in the nearest city. She got in touch online and the group is full of like-minded women who want to meet new people. They meet up once or twice a month for a meal or an activity such as bowling or craft. Although initially daunting, she's exchanged numbers with a few ladies and has been on a few coffee dates since.

It's hard to take a chance and walk into a room full of people you don't know. But you are not alone.

Best wishes 🦋

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Hi HenryX,

Thank you for taking the time to respond to my post, and I will now do my best to give you some further insight into myself.

You guessed my age range right. I very much enjoy more unusual interests, such as true crime stories, books, TV shows and movies in the fantasy/occult/supernatural genres such as American Horror Story, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Ghost Whisperer, Stranger Things, The Umbrella Academy etc, I like photography even though I haven't done much lately, same with reading. I enjoy gaming, but only have a very particular type of games I like to play.
I'm not very much of a fitness or organised hobby person, and when I do find something that interests me, I tend to not stick with it, for whatever reason, which has been a recurring trend throughout my life. I was in a pole fitness class however had to give that up when I fell pregnant with my 3rd child, but planning on starting up again after my child is born, although I didn't really link with anyone there, as a lot of them already knew each other and had that cliquey situation going on, and I couldn't break into it.
I do not participate in regular religions, and my belief system stems in Pagan beliefs.
I live in a medium sized rural town, with a population of around 40,000. I have a licence and a car so no issues with getting places.
I have found it difficult to find people with similar interests to myself, or any local groups that peak my interests and therefore haven't been able to use the "by association" friendships.
I have diagnosed depression and social anxiety, I have always been a shy person and can only begin opening up once I feel comfortable in a situation.
I have tried to reach out to old friends with no luck, and I have not been in a job for longer than 18 months. I do not have a career, and all my jobs have been wide and varying in type, from retail to banking. I am not currently working either.
I hope this is suitable for non-identifying information, and am looking forward to hearing others experiences and suggestions.

Thank you.

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Hi Luna_Darkness

Thank you for responding to my post of 12 Mar 2021 02:21 PM

Have just arrived home after 8.00 am to 9.30 pm day so am checking in with contacts before a bit of a break.

I think I now see where your name Luna_Darkness comes from with your interests in the fantasy/occult/supernatural genres.

It's good to see that you have some other responses and “supported” notations.

I will come back with more later

Cheers for now

HenryX

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Monday 15 March '21 ~8.00 pm

@Luna_Darkness

Hi Luna_Darkness

Thank you for responding with your details. It is so much easier to give an appropriate and meaningful response to a post when we have details that will support a reply.

Apologies for my delay in following up on your post.

Your approximate age range helps also. Thank you.

You have said that you enjoy “more unusual interests”. I think that I can understand that. When I was in secondary school I enjoyed reading the work of some unusual writers such as Edgar Allan Poe for whom this note on his life and death was written

“Like his life's work, Edgar Allan Poe's death (on about October 3, 1849) remains shrouded in mystery” (quoted from Smithsonian Magazine).

His writing was and is, to me, very interesting. Another author's work that interests me is that of Isaac Asimov, who was a professor of biochemistry at Boston University and a prolific writer. He died on April 6, 1992. Asimov is said to have written or edited more than 500 books. The works of both Poe and Asimov, though in very different settings, looked at and delved into the psyche of people, their characters, motivations, reaction to events, etc in their respective settings.

I can also relate to having, at the present time, interests like photography, reading, (as above), and mechanical 'stuff', that have been put on hold, because of other more important and sometimes urgent attention requiring activities. (More on that down the page.). Being distracted by new situations, interests, activities that lead to the issue of

“when I do find something that interests me, I tend to not stick with it, for whatever reason, which has been a recurring trend throughout my life.”

resonates with me.

'Falling pregnant' has, needless to say, as per my forum pseudonym, not been something that has changed my life patterns. Though for the ten years to 2019, I cared for my Mum who passed away in the middle of that year. I often comment that it was a pleasure and privilege, that I cherish, to have had that opportunity, which I would not have considered possible earlier in my life, for various reasons.

You mention your pole fitness class where you say that

“I didn't really link with anyone there...... “

I find that people sometimes have some of the same attributes as some other animals like horses and dogs {That comment is not meant disparagingly – just objective comparison}. If you approach them, they sometimes, instinctively, shy away, possibly feeling threatened for any inexplicable reason. However, approaching indirectly and feigning the 'walk away' style, the reaction is one of inquisitiveness and the other then approaches the newer arrival in order to satisfy their curiosity. The new arrival can then release a little of themselves at a time, so as to satisfy some of the curiosity while still maintaining the inquisitiveness and intrigue with the more established members of the group until they lose or relinquish the concern about any perceived threat.

I find it interesting that you see yourself as not being a participator in “regular religions”. Then you refer to your

“belief system stems from Pagan beliefs”.

I would ask the question

“How does one define a 'regular religion?'”

There are many people who have distinctly different religious beliefs and philosophies who can still associate and relate to others, on a whole scale of common interests, not associated with their religious beliefs. One of the problems with some peoples' expression of their religious beliefs is that they see themselves somehow excluded, or rejected from mainstream activity and correspondence with others, because of those beliefs. Often times I see that sense of exclusion or rejection as being internally generated rather than externally imposed. Each of us, I believe, has interests, beliefs, knowledge, skills, attributes, etc that contribute to the whole. When somehow, or for any reason, those qualities are separated from the whole, the whole becomes unwholesome – less than the whole.

I am certainly not saying that one has to enter the situation with fire and frenzy. But I do believe that each of us can insert, at appropriate times, that 'something of ourselves' that adds to the group dynamic, community, etc, in which we are active participants. Obviously, in some areas, the way that the insertion of that 'something' occurs may have to be appropriately, judiciously, sensitively, selectively accomplished.

It seems to me that with the qualities you have to offer, in various situations, like many others, you(/we) also have a responsibility to apply those attributes selectively, if that's what you would like to do as part of your quest for quality friendships.

We sometimes seek what may be described as situations or groups of comfort. These are where we fit in 'perfectly'. I do believe that we sometimes have to bend ourselves and our expectations when seeking common ground with others. Someone asked the 'religious' group, in which I am an active participant, whether we should go outside our comfort zone, my reply was definitely “Yes”. Indeed, in the group to which I am referring, I am definitely an outsider, with clearly differing philosophies, beliefs, and attitudes. The other people in the group are all aware of my position. I have said that I am in the group as a guest and, while I am happy to insert my ideas, “I will not challenge any of the primary beliefs of the members of the group.” I am there for my own development and to contribute where I see that my ideas coincide with or reinforce the ideas that the group and I have in common. There are times when my contributions to the discussion about beliefs and attitudes though, come perilously close to fault on my part of 'challenging the beliefs and attitudes of the members in the group'. However, while I have been surprised that I have been welcomed back each weekly meeting over a period of eighteen months, I believe that the group sees any challenge from me as a way for the members to either question or reassert their own beliefs and attitudes. So, it appears that my participation in the group serves their purposes and mine as well. I actively support and promote the learning of the principles to which the group adheres, particularly among the children. They can neither argue in defence or support, nor question the principles without a sound knowledge of them.

I am aware, that with regard to anxiety and depression, we do need to be cautious about leaving ourselves exposed and vulnerable in situations that can lead to conflict or threat. I think that we also need to challenge ourselves in order to build resilience. It is interesting that in the group I have mentioned, I have found an unexpected level of respect and support shown toward me, despite our known differences. What I am saying there, is that we can find comfort and support coming our way from unexpected sources when we take the risk of participation. We can also build our confidence in such environments, simply because we can find ourselves happy to maintain and even strengthen our own beliefs in what might, initially, seem to be a hostile environment.

Shyness is an attribute that I also suffered in my youth. I lacked confidence among my peers. Maybe that is why I now strongly believe in extending outside the comfort zone in a measured and careful manner. Confidence, though it can be severely eroded in childhood and youth, can be re-established and improved in a similar way to the controlled exposure treatment for people suffering agoraphobia.

You and I obviously have different backgrounds, gender, life situations, but in a psychological sense, there are many similarities. Lucky I'm not a psychologist because that last statement would amount to heresy (can't think of a better word, though I know there is one). Obviously, some of those similarities can be itemized and assessed. They are, as I read your outline;

--difficulty persevering and maintaining interest in activities that we start, possibly finding things left unfinished

--difficulty relating to other people, particularly of our own age group

--having interests and beliefs that may be considered unorthodox

--experiencing anxiety and depression

--sensitive to rejection, either real or perceived

--although meeting expectations in a work setting, difficulty maintaining interest in the work and subsequently developing a list of positions held in employment history

--difficulty organizing and prioritizing work tasks

I hope that my contribution helps you in some way, and may lead to more discussion if that's what you would like. Please let me know if there are any areas about which I am not correct.

I am very happy to respond to your further comments as I am sure are other members of the forum.

Please browse the forum for additional material that may relate to your situation.

I do hope that you enjoy your pregnancy, anticipation, and the birth of your child. Some of that wish may be a little early so in the meantime, we hope to hear of your progress

With my Best Wishes

HenryX

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Hello Luna_Darkness

A very brief note of appreciation for your 'support' note.

Thank you

Cheers,

HenryX

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Well, this is my post, and 2 years later I have been officially diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder, which really goes hand in hand with this post, seeing as unstable relationships is one of the major parts of BPD! Now that I have an official diagnosis, it's all about trying to learn how to live with this condition, which is so debilitating at times!

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