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BambiFawnSenior Contributor
'Were her thoughts really prodromal symptoms, or was it some epiphany in the external world.' by BambiFawn
Illness has a spiritual side to it, but are the voices in schizophrenia and ptsd really from just a chemical imbalance or from hearing in the spiritual realm or a demon speaking to the mind?
Any thoughts on this?
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Its an interesting idea @BambiFawn. Different cultures and eras have viewed the concept of mental illness differently.
I suppose, in my opinion, if a person is having unusual perceptions in a way that is distressing for them, or making it hard for them to live thier lives, I would suggest this is something that the individual needs help with, regardless of wether the origins of the symptoms are understood through a spiritual lense, or the western medical model.
Its possible that attaching a spiritual meaning to the symptoms might make a person more resistant to getting help.
Id be interested to hear the views of others, especially any of you out there who have had experiences with hearing voices or psycosis.
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BambiFawnSenior Contributor
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BambiFawnSenior Contributor
Hey dear @Former-Member,
Lovely to meet you.
Yes dear Lapses, I too have heard God speak to me. We were discussing my father's infidelity and adultery and how so many men are having affairs. Beloved Jesus told me ' A man should always pray in secret for his wife.' I knew it was Jesus as these were not my thoughts. Moreover Jesus' words here are in alignment with scripture, whereby God prays for the Believer or Bride of the church, praying in secret for all His believers and flock of lambs.Yes God only speaks positive words, Satan and demons speak negatives. However, the devil can masquerade as an Angel of light too.
All of life is spiritual.
' A flower blossoms; then withers and dies. It leaves a fragrance behind, which long after it's delicate petals are a little dust, still lingers in the air.......Let a note be struck on an instrument, and the faintest sound produces an aternal echo. A disturbance is created on the invisible waves of the shoreless ocean of space, and the vibration is never wholly lost. It's energy being carried from the world of matter into the immaterial world will live forever. And man we are asked to believe, man, the living, breathing, reasoning entity, the indwelling deity of our nature's crowning masterpiece, will evacuate his casket and be no more! Would the principle of continuity which exists even for the so-called inorganic matter, for a floating atom, be denied the spirit, whose attributes are consciosness, memory, mind, LOVE!. Really the very idea is proposterous....' Helena Blavatsky.
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BambiFawnSenior Contributor
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Faith-and-HopeSenior Contributor
Hi @BambiFawn @Former-Member @Former-Member .....
For me, and my spiritual beliefs are Christian, wellness is holistic ..... it is a combination of physical, mental, emotional and spiritual balance ..... being "tuned" in a way comparable with an instrument sounding its best.
To achieve that tuning, we follow the sort of practices that support wellness ..... sleeping enough, eating well, taking the time to breathe well, getting physically active, addressing emotional pain and taking the time to seek joy and laughter, considering peace and trying to still the chatter of our mind when we are feeling overwhelmed or rocked by passions or emotion, reading or watching material that causes us to think and empathise, engaging in creative activities, engaging with nature, practicing religion according to our belief system and what it teaches, and the list goes on.
If I am physically injured, I go to the doctor for treatment. If it is a significant enough injury, it comes to the attention of my faith leader, because the relationship is one where he is interested in my well-being and our interactions will reveal it.
If I am emotionally unwell, I seek the support of my faith leader, and he may recommend the support of an appropriately trained doctor.
If I am mentally unwell, I seek the support of my faith leader, and he may recommend the support of an appropriately trained doctor.
If I am spiritually unwell, I seek the support of my faith leader.
Over and above all these things, I choose to live with active faith and prayer in my life, which means that both are already engaged as a shield against dark spiritual influences.
For people who don't live this way, I can't answer ..... but for my thinking, the presence of Christ drives out the presence of evil influences just by the fact that they can't co-exist in the same place with Him , so if Christ is well present in your life, and a doctor is telling you that you need medicine to treat the symptoms of mental disorder .... take the medicine. Christ can work with the medicine, or the illness, or heal it, or whatever is best for your spiritual growth and development.
Part of faith practices is obedience .... obedience to spiritual leaders, obedience to tenets of faith, obedience to the physical laws of the world / universe, obedience to the advice of your doctor (or seek a second opinion), obedience to commonsense, health practices, compassion, conscience ..... and let the combination of these keep you out of reach of malignant spiritual influences.
Long-winded way to say "walk the walk, and take the medicine".
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BambiFawnSenior Contributor
You have a brilliant understanding dear lovely @Faith-and-Hope.
You are so eloquent and I love your deep understanding. Hugs and blessings
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Faith-and-HopeSenior Contributor
🤗💕 Thanks @BambiFawn ....
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