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Perceptions of the Older Male Widower

Perceptions of the Older Male Widower

Hi - I am interested in the experience of males who are widowed, and of women who know male widowers. I am particularly referring to my situation as an older male, in my early seventies. I have always got on well with women and enjoyed their company. After my wife died, I felt that some women including those who I knew independently of my wife began to treat me differently. I sensed that some were wary and from what they intimated, they were concerned that because I am now single and by myself, I might try and 'crack on to them', ask them out etc. So in order to avoid this context, they withdrew from me somewhat, or were explicit in demarcating about when we would see each other e.g. 'see you at the next social group meeting' (and not elsewhere by implication), or perhaps made sure that there were talking to me when others were around. These type of messages made me feel uncomfortable, a bit like a pariah. There is a lot of room for misunderstandings in this context, and I might be wrong some of the time. You have to believe me that I am always courteous to women and respect them, and don't have any sort of reputation of being a sleeze or similar. A lot of this might be attributable just to normal gender politics. Of course, women have a lot to be wary about as far as men's behaviour goes, but it is sadly ironic, that just at the time when a widower many need support, some of his potential supporters make themselves scarce. I wonder if other widowers have experienced this, or it might also apply to divorced or separated men. And I wonder if some women members would like to comment on this. What strategies might work to try and remove some tension from some of these cross gender interactions in this context?

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I'm sorry for your loss, it must be a tough time especially with supports backing away.

Society has made it difficult for women to feel they can just be friends with a man, it's incredibly irritating as it's essentially halving the friend pool. I'm in my late 40's, and recently became very close to a male colleague; never sexual, just hilarity and insightful, deep conversation, and I actually feel like his wife is my dear friend despite having only met her once. I've always had close male friends as much as female, but upon reflection the makes (other than this recent colleague) it's less contact.

My advice would be to talk to friends of either gender, openly and calmly, as you have done in this post. You come across as an articulate, thoughtful person, and I would like to think that kindly, gently challenging those societal norms could perhaps open the minds of some of your acquaintances, maybe not for others who are set in their ways (my mum I think would struggle).

Good luck. I'm newly single myself and it's a weird old world when people don't understand friendship across genders!

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Re: Perceptions of the Older Male Widower

Sorry for your loss but nope, l find the opposite. l've literally given up on any female friends bc any l've ever had have either confessed their love or wanted to sleep with me or started poking questions wondering why l don't wanna sleep with them. This has happened all my life not just at 60ish now.

Or the other thing, your expected to be the emotional crutch of a H or bf, when your just some friend. You'll heard the works from sexual to all their health problems, emotional stuff, no thx, that's reserved for my w/partner only.

Butttt, good news is although l do love female company , be your w , partner or just someone, as friends in general l find men are great mates myself anyway so l'm not even fussed about any women as friends anyway.

know any male friends at all,. l'd look at making a few mates myself as friends they make much better friends as a male as l suppose women do to women. too.

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