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Early life musings

Early life musings

I've never felt as though I had a bad childhood. In so many ways I had a great upbringing... but, there were problems that I've only just started to uncover now, which may be an answer to some of the ways I've learned to act/react as a young adult and even now... going on 50.

Here are some musings I had in a conversation this morning... more of a one sided brain dump if I'm being honest! But it's taken a while to get it all together in my head in one place so here's the short version.

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You know how you hate asking for help? Well yeah. That's how I feel about my stuff.

But turns out we're both prob just behaving that way so we don't have to experience whatever criticism, rejection, or pain (guilt, shame, inadequacy, etc) we might have experienced before... Likely growing up.

It's self protective behaviour. At least that's what I've read.

And since social acceptance is such an important part of a feeling of safety (when we're young in particular), we lean into competence so we can avoid the rejection.

I often default into intellectual understanding to explain the world and it's workings. I can know and control that. My representation of the world is vast and detailed...

But I've withdrawn from experiences and leaned on this as a substitute.

More and more in my head. Not good.

I need socialisation lol.

But I don't like it. I feel threatened... According to the textbooks anyway. (What 50yo male would admit to that, right? fightme)

My criticism of the world and people and institutions (while accurate a lot of the time!) is more of a pre-emptive strike so I don't have to confront the difficulties I have with criticism and challenges... social acceptance.

I get anxious and defensive... Even outright confrontational when I feel misunderstood or under appreciated... Taken advantage of or manipulated etc. The world truly p!sses me off in this way.

And I feel shame, disappointment, anger, fear, grief, and sadness about my shortcomings... then my abandonment of life experience.

I was raised in isolation much of the time. Not a great deal of social interaction with others except school. Holidays and weekends it was farm and family. Parents always busy. Left to explore on my own. Not a lot of feedback I guess. I've read this stuff is pretty important for young kids as they learn how to play and social boundaries etc.

School was high pressure and religious. Mum and her religion was demanding, but as I found out later, very dogmatic and nonsensical.

I felt abandoned and betrayed. Lost and alone. Alone and misunderstood. Nobody to answer my questions. Bullied in school.

Dad was busy and his answer was work. I'm sure he was raised similarly... Work is meaning... Distraction from unanswerable questions.

So yeah... Abandoned and alone I enter the world. Rebellious and angry.

But wait, there's more!

The terrible nightmares and dark intrusive thoughts... violence, disaster, overwhelm.

When suppressed emotions can no longer be withheld... those feelings of fear, abandonment, loneliness, rejection, and disconnect are pushed down and ignored for too long... And I get tired, overwhelmed, stressed, or just too close to something... Instead of HAVING the feelings (crying etc) my brain delivers something else high energy enough to expunge the emotion... An adrenalin spike. Usually some kind of violent scene, horror, or destructive, damaging, or spitefully self destructive idea.

... This is similar to my lifelong pursuit of every other damn thing that is risky and exciting. Drugs, alcohol, argument, fights, any kind of extreme challenge or problem to solve. Ultimately the pursuit of the answer to the origin of consciousness (and now the origin of life) - now there are challenges that won't be solved easily and I can avoid myself forever!! mwaaahah! (smart, hu?)

Anything but my own confronting sense of self held deep inside.

The cycle:

-> pain/anguish/guilt/fear, etc (attachment injury + shame conditioning)

-> adrenaline spike (risky behaviour, drugs, problem solving)

-> dissociative intellectualism (obsessive introspection).

This has all lead to a severe imbalance in my life... mental life is rich, detailed, and frequently the preference nowdays. Physical and social life is poor to actually something I'm afraid of doing any more.

So... I don't know how... But I need to sit with that and feel it somehow.

I need to become part of a group where I don't feel like I'm threatened or going to be judged or rejected. (god, this makes me near cry to think of... gah!)

I need to exercise and get the physical stuff synced up with the mental and emotional stuff.

Meditation, yoga, tai chi, are all spiritual cults for the most part and I'd need to hold my tongue too much! So I'm a bit stuck with that part tbh.

But... I think this makes sense.

Oh, and I'm sure someone will say "yeah, neurodivergent ppls have higher sensitivity" etc or whatever but I think that shit is just chicken or egg at this stage. Who cares.

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Hey @KirSa_EnigmA

Thank you for sharing all of that with everyone. It sounds incredibly heavy to carry that cycle of abandonment and adrenaline, and I really hear how much you're craving a space where you can just exist without being judged or 'fixed'.

That 'dissociative intellectuality' you described is such a powerful survival tool. It's incredibly smart to use your brain to solve the 'origin of life' just to get a break from the pain of your own origin story. But I can see how that's left you feeling like a 'ghost in the machine' - all mind and no body.

I myself am not spiritual, and I understand very well your frustration with yoga, meditation and Tai Chi - these things I've tried a handful of times over the years, but they never worked for me and my brain. Maybe you could look into things like somatic experiencing or even high-intensity 'heavy work'. I know for some of us neurodivergent folk, the 'quiet' meditation is very under-stimulating and makes intrusive thoughts even louder. You might need something that actually uses that adrenaline you're so accustomed to.

I wanted to touch briefly on what you said at the end of your post about neurodivergence. I get why it feels like a secondary point when you're dealing with deep-seated trauma, but as someone who is also neurodivergent themselves, I see it a bit differently.

For many of us, it isn't just 'sensitivity' - it's the literal wiring of how we process that 'adrenaline spike' or the 'dissociative intellectuism' you mentioned. Understanding that wiring doesn't dismiss the trauma; it actually helps explain why the world felt so hostile and 'nonsensical' in the first place. It's less about 'who cares' and more about finding the right tools so you don't have to 'hold your tongue' or feel like an alien in your own skin.

It takes a lot of guts to admit the idea of a group makes you want to cry. That's a huge, raw realisation. I am really glad you're looking for ways to bridge the gap between your mental and physical life. You deserve a group that feels safe, not like another performance. I hope that this space can provide you with that sense of safety.

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Interesting - given my age (80) I was intrigued by a professional saying WWII children (born just before the end) could have suffered due to parentś restricted nutritional food intake. How ever I survived that and got drafted into the Nashoś. A dear john letter did not help much either. In the course of work I got caught up in a śtar chamber' situation and retired with a blood pressure of 175/155 - not nice and that lead to my retirement on a reasonably nice Com Super pension. Life how ever can be great . . . until one loses the love of your life - suffice her passing was fast and that is an eventuality for all of us. One outcome in recent times was the discover that I was now entitled to a DVA Gold Card. Please understand that this forum is a means for my to express a lot of sadness in a more constructive way

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It took me a long time to realise my issues stem from childhood trauma and emotional neglect.

I learnt very early on to hide my feelings to avoid conflict or judgement. Because of this I hid myself and it's only been in recent years I've been able to open up a little with certain people about what I experienced growing up.

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Thanks for your comment @MatchaToad

I actually went to my first Tai Chi class this morning and found it quite good. The instructor is highly experienced and qualified and explained things very well... the movements during the instruction, and after the class during a discussion privately.

All in all, a positive move for me, I think. She certainly doesn't seem to have a mystical notion of the 'ingredients' involved... or at least, she doesn't communicate that to me. (fine if she has them, just keep em to herself ha!)

The movements felt somewhat familiar, even though I hadn't done them for a long time. I practiced Aikido and Karate for many years back in my 20's. The philosophy is similar, when you break it down. Flow, balance, alignment, synergy, etc. (obviously in karate they also punch and kick each other when there's need!)

The idea of somatic experiencing is a new concept for me, but not a new experience at all. I recall having profound emotional relese and deep insight from simply doing these kinds of motions - more the flowing stuff than the rigid kata and forms. I used to be interested in the self defence and fighting, but now... I don't want to fight any more! Oh how age and experience wisens.

In another thread I mentioned that my psychiatrist has had his medical license suspended... so, yeah. I'm in a bit of a limbo there again with the validity of diagnosis etc. So, chicken or egg? Well, if it's one or the other, I guess I'd better get another opinion so I can be sure which chicken or egg I'm dealing with!!

This week I'm feeling good. At least yesterday and today. Much improved from the past few weeks... and less stressed than the previous few months too.

I think I finally might have settled down into some sense of peace again for a while. So, damn the shrink for his deviance. I joined the Men's shed & Tai Chi this week and I'll just roll with it for a while!

Thanks again for your support 🙂

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@KirSa_EnigmA

That is a massive week! Honestly, joining the Men's Shed and a Tai Chi class in the same few days is a huge win for getting out of that intellectual loop and back into the physical world.

I hear you on the psychiatrist situation - that is incredibly frustrating and worrisome and definitely explains the chicken or egg scepticism you are having.

In the meantime, lean into that Tai Chi flow. If it's giving you that somatic release and is positive for you, then definitely keep doing it!

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