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Lost

I am almost 50, and feeling lost, isolated and rejected. I was born into 2 families that were in the midst of generational trauma, which was passed on to most children of my generation. I was isolated in my first week of life with my mother continually trying to get more than 2 hours of time. The next 9 months my mother descended into post natal depression, and gave birth to my brother severely premature. He died 4 weeks later, and for the next 2 years I was neglected at times and also witnessed my parents screaming at each other becoming exponentially worse each week. I was then placed in my grandmother's care after my father was jailed for marijuana, which he used to blow in my face,and my mother was severely depressed and was neglecting to care for me properly. I was returned to her care a year later and at that time I was expected to assist with the housework. At 5 yrs old she remarried my stepfather who was an interstate truck driver who was later diagnosed with agoraphobia . The next 2 years we moved a few times until we moved into what was going to be our family home. At this time as well as helping with cooking and cleaning, I was also expecting to chop the firewood daily in winter and mow the lawns year round. My brother was born when I was 8 and a half, and I was regularly asked to change nappies and help with babysitting duties, that was repeated when my 2nd brother was born. I also was born with adhd. Through out my Childhood I was smacked and punched. My stepfather was 6 foot 3, and around 150 kg. I was constantly receiving punishment because I was constantly seeking attention and approval which meant I engaged in incredibly stupid behaviour. I was also sexually abused as a child. I spent most of my 20s looking for a role model whilst also trying to be my own as I had my first child at 21. For the next 14 years I strived to be the cultural example that our society bases itself on. Unfortunately, my past trauma surfaced and to my horror after the fact, I passed that trauma on to my children, and it all culminated in a manic episode that lasted 3 days and caused my 3 daughters to reject me. I returned to my home state to try and rebuild my life and after a few years I started a new relationship that gave me hope for my future. Recently, my now ex, revealed that she had been struggling for around 18 months and had been talking to someone else for the last month and that they had feelings for this person. Due to my being honest even when it's detrimental, and what has been described as overeagerness, I have no friends or family. I have also in the last 2 years been diagnosed with adhd, cptsd, a depressive, anxiety and bing eating disorder, sleep apnoea, diverticulosis

IBS, fibromyalgea, osteoarthritis in my knees, hips, lower back and shoulders, and a slight lactose intolerance. I have met thousands of people and told myself that I had to be the bigger person and not to react to people who are being detestable humans, and as such have been continuously condemned and judged for my own mistakes which I fully acknowledge and take responsibility for. I am now lost alone,with the same debt that I entered when I started this last relationship 8 years ago, I have helped thousands of people in my life with my time money and physical effort and now at my lowest point in life I feel abandoned and rejected, are there any other people who feel this way?

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Hi @Former-Member , I'm sorry no one has responded to your post yet, so I am wanting to reach out to respond. It might take me a while to read through, digest, and respond to your post - but it is important to me. You are not overlooked; you are seen.

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@Former-Member

I can't say my childhood was anything like yours, but enough to understand a little of what you describe. I too always tried to help other people, ignoring my own difficulties. I was diagnosed with advanced cancer 3 years ago and found there was no one there for me at all... The only person was my partner who I'm so fortunate to have in my life. 3 years on my family still takes no interest in my health.

It's so difficult feeling so insignificant to people who I thought I meant something to. I can't imagine how hard it must be on top.of everything you've had to go through.

It did make me see myself as someone who deserved better. I stopped trying to help people who weren't there for me and focussed on finding people who would be. Part of that was joining here almost 2 years ago. While I don't have a lot of people around me, those I do I know I can count on. So my advice is not to give up, there are people out there who will value your friendship. Just remember it's okay to.put yourself first and deserve the same care and support you've given others. I hope you can find your own way forward.

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@Former-Member

That sounds a very traumatic start to life for you as an infant & child - initial limited contact with your mother after birth, her post-natal depression, the death of your infant brother, neglect, frequent domestic arguments and violence from both fathers, sexual abuse, secondary marijuana inhalation and subsequent move to the care of your grandmother and the burden of having to be responsible for housework at a young age once you returned to your mother's care.

I moved a number of times as a pre-school and primary-school aged child. It could be quite disruptive, changing schools and leaving behind friends. One of the moves is what triggered off my depression initially, moving away from friends and then not finding genuine friends to connect with in the new location.

I had to do some housework as a child, but for me it was age-appropriate and not too much -- just learning good responsibilities. It sounds like you were expected to do A LOT of work and quite physical work with things like chopping wood! and at a very young age. Looking after 2 younger siblings is a big responsibility and I imagine not easy at all.

I'm sorry that your parents did not provide the attention and care that you needed and deserved to have. I am sorry that instead they punished you for your attempts to seek these connections. It is understandable that you then acted out with behaviours to try to get that attention.

I experienced some sexual abuse and assault as a child and teen, but am grateful that in my case it was limited to few occasions. However even an infrequent abuse left me with many emotional and psychological challenges, and a lack of trust in people. I can only imagine how much more when you also experienced physical and verbal abuse as well, and with more frequency.

You have a good heart to have strived to be a positive role model, despite not having had a good role model in childhood. That would not have been easy I expect.

I am sorry that your mania caused trauma for your daughters and they rejected you for it. I have not experience mania, but from people I have spoken to it is not really something they are able to properly control during that phase - is that your experience also?

I expect it took a lot of courage to return to your home state to start to rebuild your life again after that. I'm sorry that things did not last with your now-ex. I recently separated from my partner of 5 years, although thankfully we have parted on friendly-enough terms even though there is pain attached still.

I am curious what "over-eagerness" looks like for you and your friends/family?

I have often had to be careful with what or how I say things - and refrain from saying some things that I think because I know no good will come of it. I have also sometimes been concerned with how much or little I should tell people, or when I should open up about my MH, unless people show clear interest. It can be hard when I really would like someone's support or connection with them, but I am not sure if they also are open to a deeper friendship.

I, too, have depression, suspected-fibromialgia (diagnosed Chronic fatigue but I also have a lot of muscle and joint pain), earlly-age osteoarthritis (I was 20 when first discovered), sleep apnea, and lactose intolerance. I have not been diagnosed with IBS, but I have the symptoms of it (just never sought medical advice as I self-manage it). I think I am 'lucky' that I don't have (to my knowledge) PTSD from my CSA.

I've often been in that situation you describe where I have helped people but not received any help from them in return when I needed it. It can be very hard to emotionally cope with that. I think one of the hardest things I had to learn as a teenager was that I am highly-empathetic and thoughtful of others, and that very very few people are to the same extent as me, and as such I had to learn not to "expect" the same level of care or consideration in return. It was not an easy things for me to accept, but part of this learning for me was that I choose who I invest my energy in and how much I give them. Those who I see reciprocating, I usually decide to invest more in as it also provides support two-ways. Of course there are also many times where I do give support without anything in return, but if I feel a person is not appreciative (and has the capacity to be) and i am feeling stretched/drained then I will pull back. It is very important to always look after ourselves I have found; if I am not doing well, then my ability to help others is also limited.

I'm not sure if this answers your question about others feeling the same way. But certainly some of your experiences are shared with me. And I know other parts of your experience (eg family upbringing) is shared with others on the forum too.

But whether or not our experiences are similar, I do believe we can still walk together and co-support as a community.

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Thank you

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Much appreciated

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Firstly, I would like to thank you for taking the time to read and reply to your post. I found myself crying as I was reading because every time a person acknowledges my difficulties, of which there has been less than a handful, I feel seen and understood.

All the posts remarks and advice have helped me restore a small amount of faith that I can find the people who can empathise.

There are many mistakes made, as a typical adhder, the ones I believe isolate me is if I see someone or a situation that could benefit from my experience, I find it almost impossible to not give said advice, whether it was asked for or not. I apparently am also very intimidating when angry, and have been known for being triggered easily due to my past trauma and experiences of people being arseholes, so if I see said behaviour, It's impossible for me not to say something. Throughout my life I have been assaulted many times and people tend to freak out when I don't get angry, and that's due to having experience too much pain to the point my pain tolerance is higher than others, and violence doesn't necessarily upset me. More than anything I have only ever wanted friends to tell me if I have offended them so I can learn to be better, however in my experience 99.9 percent of people are too scared to be decent adults, so they say nothing due to fear and usually will break confidence when they are with others and speak judgementally whilst also sometimes taking words out of context.

I realised I am now rambling so I will finish by again thanking all contributors

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@Former-Member

It's what we all want isn't it... just a bit of acknowledgement and validation. It never seems like too much to ask for, but at times we're made to feel like it's just not something we can have. There definitely are empathetic people out there, a lot of them are here and it does make such a change just feeling like you're understood. So it's so great to hear that you can finally feel a bit of hope. But give yourself a lot of credit as well, I know for me, it wasn't easy to reach out at first and be so vulnerable, even online. So continues to use that courage and strength you've already shown.

I have no idea if I have ADHD but I feel the same way with offering advice when I see that someone could benefit from it. Of course it's not always welcomed or appreciated, but I don't see it as a mistake or something wrong... it's compassion, kindness, and empathy as far as I'm concerned. There are lines though. I've learned to choose my moments and to ask myself before I give some advice, "Am I about to give this advice because I think the person could really use it, or is it because they're doing something I disagree with because of some bias I have.

I've also learned that a lot of it comes down to how I approach it. Let's face it, no one likes to be told they're wrong or a failure. So framing any advice as an offer of help rather than just launching into it makes a big difference. So saying something like "Oh, I've had trouble with that before. It was so frustrating for me. I'm happy to share a few things I found helpful if you'd like." It just makes the other person feel like someone just wants to help rather than judge or correct them.

At least you have enough self-awareness to know what triggers your anger and the reason why other people misunderstand you or your intentions. I completely get that frustration of knowing people misunderstanding me but never actually asking me. It became just simpler to just let people think what they wanted to about me and move on. But that was the issue... most of them did move on. So with time, age, and a lot of loneliness, I've learnt to just change the things I do and say... slightly, just so that what I say and/or do is more receptive to other people. Learnt to see what I saw as weaknesses as strengths. It's a bit like what you talk about with having dealt with all that trauma, abuse and violence in your past makes you not get angry or upset due to developing a higher tolerance to it. That could be seen as a weakness... or it could be a strength you've developed because of everything you've had to go through in your life.

I've learnt that empathy seems to be more common with people who have experienced trauma in their lives... because they understand what it's like to want to be heard and understood. Peer work is build on the idea that people who have had their own struggles will be able to empathise and connect with other people who are struggling better than people without that experience, even professionals. It's why support groups work for a lot of people.

I see you as someone who would be very good at de-escalating a situation. If a person is upset and angry, you seem to have the ability to remain calm and not get affected too much in a situation like that. That's not easy for most people to do, most people just turn a situation like that into an escalating argument, each trying to out-yell the other. So like i said before, it is about finding things about us, things we've been through... even terribly traumatic things... and finding the strengths that it has given us. They do say pressure builds diamonds for a reason.

True friends will understand us, and will talk and ask us questions to better understand us. It took me pretty much five decades to see that. Friends will understand us, and that lets us see our strengths and find ways to use them. It can guide us to find our place in life. People who act as you describe... judge us, make assumptions break confidence aren't friends. They only make us feel worse about ourselves and we all deserve better than that.

So as is probably pretty obvious by now, i[m pretty good at rambling myself. 😁 But I read your post and although our experiences are very different in a lot of ways, I still saw a lot of what I was questioning a couple of years ago. So I just wanted to say (and again offering advice that you may not have asked for) that I just feel like you are on the right track. Keep questioning, but also be fair to yourself. The arseholes out there, and there are plenty, don't self-reflect and ask themselves these questions. Trust yourself and seek out those 'decent adults'. They remind us of our strengths.

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