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Torn apart family relationships. How to move on?

Torn apart family relationships. How to move on?

So my dad has been always rejecting of me. I would go to birthdays or dinners and times when I was injured and out of work had no money to pay.

I would have to watch all my dads side of the family eat or sit in another room and miss out on celebrations.

One time was when they all had fish and chips. My expectation and what I would do for a family member is lend them $5 so they could get some potatato cakes atleast and if needed pay me back at a later date.

Not one of them offered and I sat in another room the whole time. 40mins later they offered me leftovers. I turned it down. That 40mins was gut wrenching.

Anyways cut forward there has been times none of them have remembered my birthday. One time I spoke up and said this made me sad and they said its my fault for not visiting enough.

I have visited them maybe 50 times in the last 5 years and they haven't visited me for 15 years.

The shaming me for forgetting about my birthday also sat wrong and made me angry.

So last year after the 1 message for the whole year where they said happy birthday. I said do talk to me anymore and told them my reasons.

This year they sent the same message saying happy birthday.

I told them never to talk to me again and how much I hate them and even if its their last dying breath to stay away.

Now I feel more yuck at myself for talking like that and cant seem to break the feeling back to my usual good spirited nature.

How do I let go and go back to being my normal happy/proud of my attitude self?

I just wanted them to not ruin my birthday or Christmas by messaging again and now for the last week I am depressed and angry at them or myself.

I feel I shouldn't take away someones ability to apologise but I couldn't take another ruined celebration.

Thanks for reading and listening. I need to let go I just don't know how

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Re: Torn apart family relationships. How to move on?

Hi @Former-Member

Your story is a difficult one that sounds like it was an experience that made you feel rejected and degraded, to which you responded with indignation. Perhaps that rings true to you? Maybe I missed something in my reading, but my response to you with the above understanding is that I think it would be very hard to experience what you have endured and I can understand that it must have been very painful.

I don't I understand your family's motivation, but I don't really think that is important.

What is important is the question that you posed: given that I am rejected and humiliated by my family, how can I feel good about myself? It is tough.

If you will allow me to give my take on this difficult predicament, can I reframe it this way: if my family doesn't respect me and I have a voice in my mind that has internalised this observation that currently says "I am pained with the idea that I am unworthy of respect and friendship", then how can I satisfy my need for respect and friendship in my social connections, given that there is a sabotaging internal voice that will work against my self esteem and undermind this need for positive social engagement?

Would you say that this is an accurate account of your story?

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Re: Torn apart family relationships. How to move on?

Not really, I feel okay with myself most of the time I just felt really bad that I made the decision to cut them off no matter how I jad been treated.

Thats not my personality usually but after a few YouTube dives last night and a sleep I woke up and I'm okay with it.

They added nothing to my life and only ever made me feel ostracised. They are not the kimd of people I want to be around and I think as te goes on I will be happier with my decision.

Accepting my situation and doing some research into has helped because I feel I was stuck for a good week in the same thoughts and hearing other people opinions helped. Even on Youtube as I have nobody in my life I want to talk to about it.

It's okay to not be wanted. I think my reaction though contrary to my usual self was needed. Its shocked me I could do that and cut someone off but once I move on through some positive talk on situations like this I will become more and more okay with it.

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Re: Torn apart family relationships. How to move on?

It’s so hard when family disappoints you. And it’s hard to know how much space we should let them take up in our lives and in our heads. I have a really contentious relationship with my sisters. I don’t like how resentful and bitter I am about it. I don’t want to be that person, feeling these ugly things. But I’m only human. When I get hurt, I have a reaction and sometimes that lingers. I’m still working on processing it and how to let it go for my own sake. So you’re not alone. Family’s hard.

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Re: Torn apart family relationships. How to move on?

Hi @Former-Member that sounds very hard and I can relate by my own experience.

I wonder if your family are the oldschool culture of "only the toughest will survive" and "lets use group coercion to gang up on someone so they join the cult of domination, or, they get locked outside to freeze to death" cause it seems like that's the way based on what you describe.

My family is like that and I can relate similar experiences to being treated so badly - you react out of anger and shame - they say "ha ha look at the psycho! look how psycho they are!" when you're not psycho, you're responding to rejection, ostracism and persecution that is done by them to who they perceive is the least obedient to the cult mindset.

After I left my family I was relieved to find that when I wasnt there to be the scapegoat, they just picked on someone else and all I could find was relief - oh it wasn't me, (someone else) is the scapegoat now so nothing they did to me was personal its all a part of the persecution/scapegoating game. When I removed myself from being the target of their persecutions i removed myself from the guilt of responding in an equally nasty/abusive manner. I was cured by leaving the sick culture of family but also adrift in the world with no life skills, no social skills, no self esteem.

Fast forward 10 years in my life I found HOW TO MOVE ON.....was:

a) never forget the actual abuse, pain and trauma - looking back with nostalgia and rose coloured glasses was an ongoing source of pain.

b) be secure and confident in a positive approach to my life..."I was abused and persecuted but I am free from those people now. I have to move forward into a life of independent satisfaction with only myself to rely on"

c) recognise and own the losses but also count the gains "I feel sad at Christmas because I wish my family were with me, but I also wish they were different people. I spent 30 christmases upset and sad due to their abuse, I will feel sad from being alone but also I have space in my life to put non-abusive people and situations and I would rather be bored/empty than to be angry/abused".

d) recognise the depths of their evilness but try not to retraumatise yourself "They ripped me off and starved me, they humiliated me to get a reaction but my reaction was to get away from them. I won't be ripped off anymore and I will become a person who is generous to others because i know how much it hurts to be ostracised"

e) It is entirely natural to mourn and grieve people who you used to know and to be plagued with memories of good times, even if there were few your mind will play tricks to get you back there. Its very human to need a tribe and YOU NEED TO REPLACE THE ABUSIVE TRIBE with a better quality arrangement of people.

f) Moving forward: rebuilding a life that is based around your true values, even if it takes a long time. Like being burned by a fire, you know what it feels like to be burned and run away from the fire but you may not know how to survive after being treated and surviving, so yes you will have scars and yes you will have trauma but these keep you trapped in the past and even if it costs a lot of time and money, to keep moving away from the bad times and to genuinely bring better times into your life is healing the pain from the horrible fire.

g) Not getting sucked into the past/holding grief forever, this for me has been the very hardest part to define the grief, to recognise it as grief and to let it go. They key to me for letting go of the grief, to equate it to a metaphor was like having two piles of bricks. One pile of bricks very large, was grief and pain. Then "my life" was only a few bricks. And I had to pick up each brick of grief and pain, I had to study it, value it, and....when you want to throw it away because its horrible, you have to stack that brick into 'your life' as something of meaning. So in the end you have the same number of bricks, braincells or memories or whatever they are, but they have to be YOUR BRICKS which is "your house" which is YOUR LIFE which is that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can only change form. so you have to change the form from grief, sorrow, shame and pain into contentment, joy, pride and strength. and if you look at those words each is a pair of opposites. Then you have to truly feel the positive emotions, for yourself, without needing constant validation, and then thats when you have done the work, I reckon. Thats what I can say after 15 years walking away from being the scapegoat - 5 years of being totally lost and destroyed with grief, 10 years of rebuilding my life so that I am free from a toxic family system.

Yes the family have money and houses and material wealth but they got it from evil sources, evil people, and they danced with the devil, lost their souls to get it. They aren't happy, they are dependent on those things like a drug if they don't have it they implode. Me, I live a humble life with not much but I know that people are happy to see me, I am liked and respected within my version of society, and if my family came back and over the telephone they throw bricks and bombs and spears at me and I just say, thankyou for reminding me of why I sacrificed everything I know to build and have this humble existence. Where I used to be upset for days or go crawling back to the abuse factory now I am upset for minutes and I go and do something that adds value to my life.

Yes I wish they were different but they are not.

I am different now and i am grateful to be free from a horrible and soul destroying life.

I wish that the family would see the light but they have proven themselves unwilling and unable to do so.

Therefore I walk forward in my own life knowing i have been to hell and back but at least I didn't drag other people down there with me.

I hope that my words make sense to you and that you find peace and solace over Christmas.

Likewise I am interested to hear your remedies and strategies about moving forward and out of the painful, horrible situation. Last but not least I am sorry for what you have experienced, especially on your birthday. You deserve to have a happy birthday and to be celebrated and appreciated on that day. But tyrants and unhappy people choose the best times of life to unleash their bitterness, they just can't stand it IF IM NOT HAPPY NO ONE WILL BE HAPPY ESPECIALLY NOT THE BLOODY SCAPEGOAT THAT PERSON WILL NEVER HAVE A HAPPY BIRTHDAY ON MY WATCH!!!!

Oh yes the scapegoat will have a VERY happy birthday when they are skipping and dancing and headbutting on the outside of the family slaughterhouse. So make sure you defintiely have a merry Christmas and also a happy birthday. Give yourself what they denied 🙂

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Re: Torn apart family relationships. How to move on?

Hi @Former-Member

I am trying to make sense of your response, and because I am interested in understanding your story, and in particular, the conceptual framework you have built to understand your emotion and behaviour towards your family, I would like to ask if I could continue my dialogue?

If you would like to hear my questions, please respond. If you do not want to continue the conversation, then I will refrain from continuing in the thread.

Kind regards

J.

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