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Younger Brother Struggling with Delusions (and it's eating me alive) - please help.

Younger Brother Struggling with Delusions (and it's eating me alive) - please help.

Hello, first time member, first time poster on here. I can't type this without crying, I can't work without crying, having trouble sleeping, having trouble focusing on my own family (2 little kids). I just need some support in some way because I can't recall a time I've been so mentally taxed.

So, here goes:

Younger brother is now 37, he's single, he's the youngest of 6 boys in my family. Our mom died in 2004, our father died in 2016. He's certainly on the spectrum, has no real friends or relationships, lives alone in a condo, and is functional (has a full time job). Not much of a drinker and i've never experienced him consuming any sort of drugs. He's a difficult person to talk to, very introverted, moody at times....sort of a wild card. A good guy, though--wouldn't hurt a fly, means well, does not cause any problems for anyone in my family. Pretty much to sum it up, he's lived a life of social isolation and top dollar says he's experienced severe depression over the years. Out of all my brothers, I'm the closest to him; not only in age (I'm 40), but in terms of person-to-person relationships.

He's never expressed any delusional thoughts until an incident occurred at the end of July, 3 months ago. Typically, he's a decent communicator over text. Not an immediate responder, but does get back to you. In late July, he seemed to have gone dark and was not responding to any texts or calls, and after 2 days I called in a wellness check with the cops. He wasn't home but at his job, and they said he seemed fine and that he'll get back to us and let us know he's okay cause we were all obviously worried. He took 1.5 hours to respond to any previous texts that day and he did see how serious the situation was..no urgency. Just responded "I'm good, thanks" and he's never provided any explanation as to what that was. That was thr first time ever he was withdrawing from family. I went up to see him a day later and he told me "someone is spraying chemicals of some sort into my condo in the middle of the night and it's preventing me from sleeping" and he's been saying this now for a few months, he's lost a lot of weight, looks frail, but ironic enough, saying "other than the non-sleep, I feel great". For what it's worth, he told me other day he had hernia surgery in mid-June (month before incident)...not sure if he was prescribed anything. Then rest of summer, he said "no thanks" to any family invites, plans, events, etc.

Fast forward to 4 days ago, 10/25 (exactly 3 months from first incident)----he voluntarily went down to the police station to complain about the "spraying" and inquired if anyone else in his complex complained about something similar. he then refused police to go check his condo out and refused me and my othr brother going to check his place out to identify what could be off. He also recently seems very confused, disoriented, and hollow eyed. For what it's worth he answers no to being suicidal, depressed, or violent towards others. Although when I asked him if he's depressed, I could see his eyes watering up which basically cut a hole in my heart to see cause I want to help him so badly that I'd go to the end of the earth to have him feel better. Several people I've talked to have asked me if he's taking drugs and as I mentioned above, I've never seen him take a drug in his life, but I can't rule anything out. I seem to find it a little odd (the timing) with the hernia surgery in June, then in July starts mentioning these delusions (although he says they've been happening for a year or so). Surprised he never mentioned anything ever before july. The timing is sort of suspect. He doesn't even drink alcohol really, so drugs are a far fetch in my mind, but who really knows.

So, now it's gotten to a point where 3 of my other brothers and I are going to sit down with him altogether tomorrow night (completely judgement-free) and try to explain how we feel and how we know he's not feeling right...and it could possibly benefit him by speaking to a professional and potentially taking medications.

I'm sure I forgot some details, but those are the broad strokes as to what's going on. We've reached out to his county mental health crisis hotline and they suggested we speak with him and try to get him to be compliant to seek help or they can send someone to his home (although that may not go over well). So we are going with the former and I know he'll refuse and say "no thanks" or "i'm good" but we have to try cause this is killing me inside, I can't focus on anything and I'm terrified of what could happen if he doesn't seek treatment. Literally eating me alive cause he's alone, struggling with his own demons and doesn't know what true reality is nor does he know how to get out of his universe he is stuck in.

Thanks for reading. Any modicum of tips or self-assurances here would be appreciated to no end. I just need some sort of relief cause I don't know how much time is of the essence nor do I know when he will actually sit down with a professional (if ever).

Thank you

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Re: Younger Brother Struggling with Delusions (and it's eating me alive) - please help.

Hi @TheInternalFire

I hope you're doing ok.

This sounds very concerning and i can imagine how difficult you would be finding this.

I say this without judgement; I would personally avoid wellness checks by authorities. If your brother is experiencing paranoia and or delusions, this could be potentially very disorientating and super upsetting. I'm sure there are some officers that are very skilled in this area, but many are not.

Again, not a judgement, and others may advise otherwise.

Has anyone asked the nature of the chemicals, when, how, how can he tell, etc?

If your brother is autistic, it's important to realise that the questions you ask will be very important, you may need to frame them with specific unambiguous language.
There might be something real that's happening, which is playing into a delusion.

However, if he is in a paranoid state, he may well be reluctant to trust others to explain.

It could also be that he doesn't know how to.

It's a tough one.

The fact that your brother has been open to police about it, suggests that he doesn't feel compelled to keep it a secret, which is good. Many delusions involve the need for secrecy. Though again it's not so simple.

I don't know what he would need from you, how close a relationship you have, etc, which might affect how you approach the situation.

I am a little concerned, but don't know enough about him or the situation.

If you could say more about how the two of you, or other siblings get on/interact, it might be useful to figure out an approach. You know?

I'm not sure if I've been at all helpful

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Re: Younger Brother Struggling with Delusions (and it's eating me alive) - please help.

Hi,

your response is more than I was expecting being that I took a shot in the dark by posting it on here.

I'm 40, he's 37 and we are the "closest" in terms of relationship, although talking to him is very difficult 80% of the time..like pulling teeth. A lot of silence when we have hung out over the years, but I would always invite him to do things. He'd politely refuse 50-60% of the time but I do include him that's for sure and I feel like he's "closer" to me than the other 4 brothers. At the same time, I'm the one feeling like he is resenting me for caring so much about the situation, calling in the wellness check in July, checking in every few days, telling him I'm here, I love you, etc.....in spite of not really getting many responses back. As for my other brothers, he has a decently good relationship with 2 of them and the other 2 he hardly talks to except if we are all together in the same place. I live 75 minutes away from him and I have my own home, family, and 2 little kids but at this point, after last weekend at the police station, I am fully on board and ready to go to the end of the earth to help him fight this battle and get him the help he truly needs. And I don't want any thank yous or recognition or anything; I just want him to feel better and have some sense of purpose/belonging in this life.

That's where I am right now. Crying in front of my computer, hoping time isn't running out, and on a mission to do everything I can to help him now.

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Re: Younger Brother Struggling with Delusions (and it's eating me alive) - please help.

@TheInternalFire

I understand. It's ok, I can imagine what it must feel like in your situation.

I think when I was typing last night I was hoping I could come up with some solutions for you, hopeful that as I typed one might present itself.

It's quite difficult to know exactly what to suggest

I'll try and find some links that might provide you with some ideas on how best to approach your brother/the situation. From memory, there's for sure a section for people that are caring for others experiencing psychosis. I guess if there's any doubt as to whether he is in fact experiencing psychosis, or in the prodromal phase, or otherwise, it probably wouldn't hurt to understand what might and might not be useful.

I think there are suggestions about how you might be able to bring up the apparent delusions that might be less confronting, which is clearly preferable

Have you noticed any other unusual behaviour?

Btw, if you use the "@" symbol in your text it should list the people in the thread, and you can tag people, and they'll get a notification that you've responded.

I might not be able to get the info this evening, but for sure by tomorrow.

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Re: Younger Brother Struggling with Delusions (and it's eating me alive) - please help.

Hey @unreal ,

Thank you for your thoughtful posts to @TheInternalFire .

I just want to say that I've seen so many mambers crying out for support for their loved ones experiencing paranoia/delusions etc.

It's great to be able to hear people's insights into what has worked etc.

@TheInternalFire , we are so glad you have been able to reach out at this difficult time. I hope your loved one gets the support they need.

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Re: Younger Brother Struggling with Delusions (and it's eating me alive) - please help.

@TheInternalFire

I accidentally refreshed the page and lost my text, so this is a short response that I meant to say earlier.

Silence isn't necessarily a bad thing. Your brother might like the company and not feel the need to speak. It might appear to be a negative thing, it's often not.

Why do you think your brother might resent you caring?

Has he indicated this, or said anything directly?

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@tyme

Yeah, I get it.

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Re: Younger Brother Struggling with Delusions (and it's eating me alive) - please help.

Hi @TheInternalFire

Some links that i have on my pc.
I haven't read them in a while, so i don't recall the content of all of them, however the fact that i have saved them suggests that i thought they were useful.

This one was particularly good.
The information on the site is perhaps 99% from people with actual experience, rather than those that have "studied psychosis".
Both, experience, and studies have value, but they need to be read together. in my opinion.

https://livingwithschizophreniauk.org/
I would suggest that you might want to read as much of this as possible, rather than just looking at the 'carers', 'doctors and health care workers' sections, as it gives a much better insight as to what people are experiencing and how it affects them.
Though the 'carers', 'doctors and health care workers' sections are probably good place to start.

https://www.mhfa.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/MHFA_Psychosis-Guidelines-1.pdf
Just info here, probably useful

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25752725/
Schizophrenia patients with high intelligence: A clinically distinct sub-type of schizophrenia?
E. C ˇernisa

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27336046/
'The impact of premorbid and current intellect in schizophrenia: cognitive, symptom, and functional outcomes'

https://neura.edu.au/health/schizophrenia
Lots of info on schizophrenia here. I don't recall the content, but it may be useful

I hope this is not overwhelming.
If so, i would just read the info on the first link.
I can also link to youtube channels that i have found informative.

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