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Worse in the morning but better past 4pm

Worse in the morning but better past 4pm

Hi Sane forum folks,
I have a lot symptoms going on but I've decided on advice from a phone counsellor that I'm going to go to my doctor when things reopen and demand a reassessment.

I'm just trying to get information on a symptom that I have that's consistent and unique - I believe it may be the key to a proper diagnosis and treatment.

So no matter if I have severe depression, anxiety, OCD or other symptoms - the symptoms seem to always ease around 4pm onwards in the afternoon and by nightfall I'm feeling OK.

Does anyone have any idea if this is related to any diagnosis? Do you experience this too? What is your diagnosis if so? Thankyou in advance.

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Hi @Dothemo,

when I was very sick with depression and anxiety, I would find that my symptoms would ease around night-fall. By the time I went to bed at 9.30 pm, I would feel relaxed, if some-what disconnected.

Just going by what I've read about anxiety, it does tend to ease at night for a significant amount of sufferers. But I am not an expert and can only really offer you advice as a fellow sufferer.

Yes, you should definitely tell you doctor about this aspect of your symptoms. I think I told my doctor about it (it was a very long time ago.)

You should tell your doctor as much as you can about your symptoms.

I saw a psychiatrist but I didn't really receive a formal diagnosis. She just treated my symptoms with a variety of different medications. The medications more or less worked, but it took time.

As far as I can tell, with all the research I have done, I suffered from severe anxiety, panic attacks, major depression and possibly mild depressive psychosis. I am not in any way qualified to diagnose myself. I do not recommend that anyone tries to diagnose themselves! It's always a good idea to seek professional help.

I used to wake up in a panic with the predominant symptom being blind, white terror. It was over-whelming. I felt anxious, shaky, had no appetite and a dry mouth. I felt a bit disconnected from my body.

By the afternoon, I would be sobbing my heart out, in the foetal position. I felt overwhelming despair and sadness. It was all-consuming.

I also had increasingly paranoid thoughts about all kind of strange things. I had some fleeting, bizarre, disordered thoughts that did not make sense.

All this tended to settle down by night-fall and then I could 'act' normally, eat something and watch telly. I could carry on a normal conversation. My partner at the time thought I was inventing the whole thing!

I hope you are ok, @Dothemo.

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Hi @Sahara,

I'm very glad I posted - thank you so much for sharing your story. I am very sorry that you went through that hell. Reading it gives me hope for the future as you recovered. There are parallels between yours and mine.

I like the idea of the individual symptoms being treated, I'm still searching for a good Psychiatrist like yours. I don't think specific meds can be mentioned but are you able to mention the classes of medications that were prescribed?

Also, if you don't mind what were the paranoid thoughts and disordered thinking thoughts about? I have had plenty of that. Thank you so much for posting, happy new year!

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Hi @Dothemo,

I hope that you find a good psychiatrist. The process of prescribing medication for mental illness can involve a bit of trial and error.... that's my understanding, anyway. What works for one person may not work for another, even if those patients have almost identical symptoms! Again, I am no expert on this... I encourage you to talk over your medication at length with your prescribing doctor.

I was treated with a very high dose of antidepressants. My psychiatrist had to ring the PBS to get approval for such a high dose! She then added a mood-stabilizer into the mix. I did not have Bi-polar Disorder symptoms, but mood stabilizers can be prescribed in an attempt to increase the effects of antidepressants.

She also prescribed minor tranquilizers to be taken as required - for anxiety. These were addictive, but they did the job. She then wanted to trial me on an anti-psychotic, as well as all the other meds, but I decided to persevere without it. In hindsight, I probably should have just taken it.

Never-the-less, I eventually did improve.

Hmmm... the paranoia is hard to describe. It was like extreme anxiety gone haywire. I can't really talk about the fleeting, irrational thoughts except to say they were horrifying and extremely bizarre. Only, I knew that they were not right.... I thought "Oh, so this is what it's like to be insane. Ok, now I know."

@Dothemo, everyone is kind of different and you need to get individual treatment. However, my psychiatrist assured me that when people go completely bonkers... they all go bonkers in amazingly similar ways. So you are not alone!

Happy New Year.

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P.S. "Bonkers" is not an accepted medical term and she did not use this word.

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Hi @Dothemo

Feeling very depressed in the morning and feeling much better in the late afternoon and evening is believed to be one of the core symptoms of depression. It's referred to as diurnal mood variation. 🎶💕

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@Sahara, thank you again. Although mental illness is very individual I still feel that treatment is possible for me when hearing success stories such as yours. I just have to find a good psychiatrist now.

@Kurra,

Oh wow thanks! So what's happening isn't some fancy rare mental illness that requires several brutal drugs then. I will take respite in that, also in knowing that definitely some part of this is normal depression. Thankyou.

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I have that problem alot
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