"The Gift of Depression"

Hi @Kombibob,

thanks for sharing your thoughts. I am very glad you have recovered from depression. But I do wonder if depression, which is an illness, is not actually a different thing from a spiritual crisis?

I might be true that you could have both at once.

I notice in your video link that you are advocating depression as being a response to a world that is nonsupporting and alienating. Yes, I agree to some extent, these things could contribute to depression. But there are also plenty of people out there who are not alienated from society and who are in conventional loving relationships and who suffer depression too!

The causes of depression are still being researched, but many scientists agree that a combination of genetic and environmental factors come into play.

I think of depression as an illness that sometimes does require medication. It's great if you were able to recover without taking medication, but for those who need it, it might be a bit simplistic and misleading to imply that they are wrong to take it. When I severly depressed, I doubt I would have survived without taking prescribed medication.

If you believe that depression is an illness then that is true for you, it is your truth and only valid for you! I have my own truth and that is what I shared see also 'Simply Thankyou". To assume that your truth is valid for anyone else is a mark of immaturity.

I began my dance with depression in 84 and took all the drugs and visited many psychiatrists and psychologists and finally healed myself by realizing that I am the only expert on my life. Why do you assume that your truth is more valid than mine> I have shared my personal life experience and for me depression cannot be healed through the mind only by feeling through the heart which is why the western model cannot cure it because all counsellors are trying to help people think their way out of it. Why are you so reluctant to accept another's truth, is it not feasible that depression is a growing pain as so many other people are beginning to realise.
 What is Psychology or psychiatry but a construct of the mind and for me "The mind is just a tool that I use when I choose" for me, all are equal and all are unique, for me your response is typical of blinkered codependent behaviour, have you ever done any personal growth work, are you willing to share your truth, your life experience or can you only share opinions, which are worthless by the way. I do not ask you to believe me but at least do the research .


Has any psychologist or psychiatrist ever cured anyone from depression? not medicate or provide coping skills but actually cured them.


Vive' la difference'

Hi @Kombibob

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You are right when you say 'it is your truth and only valid for you'. I would also say that your perspective is your own truth too. Everyone's experience is unquie and what works and what doesn't work is different for each of us.

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